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Junk Wax Queen: How Cards Became a Pandemic Passion Project PT2
Card collecting is evolving beyond the stereotype of older, middle-aged men, with collectors of all ages and backgrounds entering the hobby for different reasons and with different approaches to building their collections.
• Card value varies based on rarity factors like special prints, patches, and autographs
• The pandemic caused an overnight explosion in collecting when people at home rekindled their interest
• Setting a separate account for card purchases helps maintain financial boundaries
• Collect what you like rather than chasing prospects or market hype
• Cards with personal meaning often bring more joy than those with high monetary value
• The social aspect of collecting connects people at shows and through trading communities
• Modern collecting spans multiple sports, creating diverse collector identities
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For some reason, there's this narrative that the card collector is just like an older, middle-aged man, and that's it, and that could not be further from the case. I mean it's. You know people of all ages. There are a lot of, you know, older men. There are not a lot of women, but I mean it's growing.
Speaker 2:What's up, dad hacker? And welcome to part two of my conversation with ashley on card collecting. That's right val and I we talk card collecting with our good friend and uh, yeah, we're gonna finish this conversation and then, of course, you guys already know, we're gonna do our famous that's the famous questions and then we are trying to figure out whether or not Val is going to pick up another hobby. Don't blame me, it wasn't my fault this time.
Speaker 3:Guys, without further ado, I'll give you the episode Earlier when you said when you go to these card shows you'll go through like the box of cards that go for, or at least are marked for, a dollar, do you feel like or a lot of? Do you feel like, hopefully you get lucky that maybe, like a card collector or somebody who has this box doesn't know the real value of these cards and one of those could be worth way more than a dollar? Or are those usually like dollar type cards and you just buy them because it's fun to buy them?
Speaker 1:really it just depends um me personally. Like I just I buy them because it's fun, like I don't go into a show looking to come out making more money or anything like when I like my husband will look through my cards and he'll be like, why did you buy a Howard Johnson card? I'm like, well, because look at it, it's cool. He's like, yeah, but it's Howard Johnson. I was like I only paid a dollar for it. He's like I wouldn't have paid 10 cent for it. It's just, you know, like it's just about what I like. I know that there are people like that though that go in. You know, even if it's just a, they bought it for a dollar and they can sell it for two dollars or they can sell it for three dollars. I mean, it's just sometimes you run across that, but a lot of times you run across someone who has a dollar card. They want to sell it for five dollars dollars.
Speaker 2:It's funny because and it's in the same household that the two of you have totally different views on what it's like to be a card collector. Right, you're doing it for the love of the collecting of the card, like you like. It's like. You know what I like this card. I don't care how much it's worth, you know. If it's worth a dollar or ten cents, you like it. Your husband, on the other hand, is like no, I this, you know I'm getting it because it's worth this much. And I'm sure he has in his vast collection of cards, some very nice, expensive cards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was actually given a Michael Jordan autographed. It was like a set of um, what is it called? It's like a relic. So when you it was put all together in a frame, it it made the the tar heel yeah logo and it has his autograph on it. Um, I don't. I wouldn't say he collects for the value, but he's definitely not one that's going to buy just any old card. It has to be somebody he collects or he's not going to do it.
Speaker 2:See, I'm afraid to get into card collecting. I'm terrified because I know what that will lead to. You know what I mean. You start small and all of a sudden my wife is having me sleep in my car because I got way too much junk, you know. So we're not doing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it depends, Like who is your favorite player, would you say. Clemente, yeah well yeah, you'd be in the car real fast.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you this From the moment that you started collecting to now, 2025, right how has, in your opinion, the card collecting market, the whole thing, how has it changed for you?
Speaker 1:It's interesting to really sit back and think about it, um, because, like, when I started, it felt like something that was just very, very small, and even even back then it wasn't small, but it for some reason like it just felt like it was. And then, you know, when everybody was at home kind of did the same thing that I did, you know whether they were collectors when they were kids, and then they kind of got back into it because they were looking for something to do.
Speaker 3:It just exploded and it just grew from there interesting, yeah, I think a lot more on the internet now, so I'm wondering if it was just almost overnight.
Speaker 1:It felt that way Seriously, I mean one day we were buying whatever we wanted to out of Walmart or Target, where they have all the cards and stuff. And then the next day you couldn't find anything. The shelves were completely empty, and they stayed empty for months.
Speaker 2:It's such a weird thing, right like you know, just collecting overall, not just card collecting, but like anything, I'm like I'm, we have a mutual friend, patrick, you know, larson. You know, shout out to patrick larson, right like I mean my man, you know, he has well, I guess, like probably well over 2 000 hats and we're talking about like the fitted hats, and you're like my man, you know, that's something that good for him, you know that is.
Speaker 3:That is so fair to say, because I I I sometimes I'll re-watch his aviators video because it's just because you know I'm from vegas. So like, why don't I have 10 Las Vegas Aviator hats? Why does he have 10 Las Vegas Aviator?
Speaker 2:hats Because it's Patrick Larson. I love that guy, love him MLB hat history. You guys got to follow him. He does a video every day Well, yeah, every week about a minor league team that he has a gazillion hats of.
Speaker 3:Teams I've never heard of. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And I've heard of a lot of teams. That's what I'm saying, like I've been doing this for a while now, right, and I know a lot of minor league teams and I'm like I had no idea that team had that. Have you ever? Have you ever? You, you kind of said no, but I want to know. It's like have you ever flipped a card for profit? Or it's just just that you're, you're, you don't have that much of that.
Speaker 1:You don't have that much of that. Yeah, there were two really that come to mind that were a profit Zion Williamson's rookie card. I bought it out of a $40 box and I think I sold it for $1,200 maybe. And then Trey Lance. Same thing kind of with Trey Lance, except for while it was off getting graded he got hurt. So it went from a like $1,500 card to a $200 card.
Speaker 3:It went from a $1,500 card to a $200 card. Yikes yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean it was still a profit because it was you know.
Speaker 3:This has always been something on my mind, especially now that I've been seeing the world of card collecting growing. When someone says, like their rookie card is is worth like this much, how many copies of the those rookie cards like? Is it really just? There's really only one rookie card made, because there's millions of packs sold. So is it just millions of packs with oh, that's it, one rookie card? Good luck. Whoever finds it finds it and they make the money if they want to sell it um no, so I mean there's there's a good amount of rookie cards out there.
Speaker 1:Um, where the the money comes in and the rarity comes in is when you have like the prisms or their silvers or you know it has like a short print where it's just slightly different than the others. That's where all the money comes in and like the rarity for the rookie cards. But people have strong feelings about the players and their rookie cards strong feelings about the players and their rookie cards.
Speaker 2:So I don't know, it's just wild because it's like, oh, you know, here's a, here's a rookie card with a patch uh, you know, from his jersey, and all that and it's going for stupid amount of money. You know what I mean. That like like how can you and again, I just don't know right, I'm not really involved in that world as much as you know other ones are like like how do you what? How do you determine the price, right? Like I mean, because it's such a arbitrary number really, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's what, what the collector is willing to pay for it. So with the schemes, it's whoever the schemes collector is out there that is willing to pay the money for it. That's how much it's.
Speaker 3:They kind of set the market and there was for the schemes frenzy that just just occurred.
Speaker 1:There was only one paul skein's rookie card out there, printed right so that there was one of his um, I think it was his debut patch or something but that card was a one of one, so it had like one of one written on it, I think. I don't even think I looked at it up close outside of it you know like oh okay, it's paul skeens, but schemes, but um so it just it really depends.
Speaker 1:So with that one there was only that one. But I mean he's got a ton of rookie cards out there, just the in, like the different products yeah, what are some tips for like someone like me who's not?
Speaker 2:I'm not a card collector at all. My brother is. I said you know, um, but what, what's, what's your? You know, your your tips for someone like me to get once, to get started in in this hmm.
Speaker 1:So the main one and I think it's kind of um, the advice that everybody gives across the board is collect what you like, find the thing that you like and stick with that. Don't get caught up in the hype of you know the new prospect or because that can end so badly. I mean, look at what happened with Wander Franco. I mean it's yeah, yeah. So you know people, people who collected nothing but his cards ended up with nothing yeah, um.
Speaker 1:So collect what you like, that's the main one. And um, don't dig yourself in a hole, you know, just have fun with it. Don't dig yourself in a hole, you know, just have fun with it. Don't look at it as an investment. It's a hobby.
Speaker 2:And if you're not having fun, then it's no longer a hobby. I do, I do. I got to say you know something that you do. That's super smart and I you know. I wish other people would do the same, especially me as well. When I'm buying hands, it's setting up a different account Once it runs out. It runs out, that's it. I'm not buying anything until I replace these funds. That's such a simple thing, and yet most of us don't follow that rule. Yeah, I had to.
Speaker 1:I make jokes all the time and like people, people joke and give my husband a hard time about it because he's, um, you know they're like, oh, she spends all the money. She spends all you guys money on cards, and you know we make a joke out of it. But when I first started, I mean we were, we were spending a lot on cards and it was like you don't, you don't even think about it, because it's not like you're spending it all in one lump sum. It's not like a trip to the grocery store, it's like gradually over a month, and then you look back and you're like, wait, where did all, where did all the money go? So you go to one store.
Speaker 2:You pick up a box here or a pack and then you go to another store. It's like let me pick them, let me just put one on that's how it goes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had to because I was like okay, this is, you know, once it gets out of control, like I said, it's no longer fun, it's no longer a hobby. So I had to bring it back.
Speaker 2:Do you remember that moment that you're like, oh, we got to stop? Because I know I remember the moment that I was like I got six boxes here. I probably should stop for a while.
Speaker 1:It wasn't like a specific moment, it was just like we were, I think. We were in a shop somewhere and, like the box that we were looking at on the shelf the same box that we had bought like six months prior it had already like almost tripled in value and I was still like, well, I don't see what the problem is. Like. We bought this six months ago. Why can't we buy it now? My husband's looking at me like, uh, because we only paid $70 for it then and now it's, you know, over $300 and I'm like, yeah, well, I don't get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then it was kind of like oh well, you know, maybe I need to dial it back a little bit Just a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get that so dang well now.
Speaker 3:I wish I was close to you, because now I'm curious to know like you got her going. You got her going you know what, like I forgot I had this box. Okay, question question. What does okay this charles barkley card right? What does this 175 on the back mean?
Speaker 1:That's just. Is it like a big number? I can't. Yeah, I think that's just a number Like the number in the set.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that one is more like a. That one looks like a base card, I think. So there's a checklist and that's just what number it is on the checklist.
Speaker 3:That's interesting. I've got a bunch of my favorite football team. I'm a huge Denver.
Speaker 2:Broncos fan.
Speaker 3:So I've got some. I mean these are like I've got two Steve Atwater cards. I know I'm I'm never going to get going to get rid of my Denver Broncos cards, but like some of this'm going to go through.
Speaker 1:I'm right there. I thought I had some on my desk, but I'm a Shannon Sharp collector so I have tons of Bronco cards.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I love Shannon Sharp. I'm about to leave the conversation.
Speaker 2:Y'all can just keep going here now.
Speaker 3:I did find his jersey from someone who I felt like was under I. I mean I bought it for $20. I feel like it's worth way more than that but you bought it for $20.
Speaker 2:That's a good thing for you.
Speaker 3:I mean, no, it's great for me, but I'm like this thing should have been like $10,000 get out of here so yeah. I wouldn't comment. No, I'm definitely not a card collector. I don't even remember having this box. But I mean, yeah, I'm going to have to go through it later now. This conversation probably will continue offline. My sixth thing that I'm going to start collecting Right.
Speaker 2:Listen, you tell your fans that it was not my fault. This has nothing to do with me, so he cannot blame me for this one.
Speaker 3:He might.
Speaker 2:Or you Great.
Speaker 1:Anytime I can add to the ranks of female card collectors, I'm like, but it's fun, we have a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Bad influence.
Speaker 3:She's going to start Watch.
Speaker 2:She's going to be like maybe.
Speaker 3:I should think about this. I'm not even kidding. I remember I had this from when I lived in Texas and then I moved out here and then my priorities changed. I switched from cards to pins, I guess because I didn't start collecting pins until I moved out here.
Speaker 2:Just wait. This is what's going to happen. I can tell already she's going to go to a sporting event this conversation needed to happen.
Speaker 3:We needed to find my girl.
Speaker 2:Right, so that's what I'm saying. Now you're going to be like I'm going to the ballpark. Maybe I should pick up a card set.
Speaker 3:I've got an unopened pack here from 2008 to 2009. So I'm going to. I'm going to. I don't know, I feel like you know what you should do?
Speaker 2:a video on it.
Speaker 3:Would you open something like this, like you don't open cards, old cards, you know what? Let me hold on Um settings. Hold on Um.
Speaker 2:I would, why not?
Speaker 3:Is this better?
Speaker 2:Would you?
Speaker 1:open something like this yeah, I'd have to look and see.
Speaker 2:Wait, that one says is that Derrick Rose right there in the middle, top, middle, that is Derrick Rose. Yeah, I mean, I'd open it, dude, you could probably have an autographed card in there and you don't even know it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just have to look up the checklist for it, cause I, off the top of my head, I can't think of anything that's in it. But it was. It would still be fun either way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that influence right there.
Speaker 2:This is what we do I know, I know. I know I get it, I understand. So, um, okay, got a couple more questions for you and then we're going to go into my favorites, not so famous questions here. So have you ever made a?
Speaker 1:trade that you regretted? No, mostly just because, like, if I'm trading something with somebody, it's normally because it's a card that they want and that I know that they're going to enjoy, because, I mean, there's no point in having it sit in my collection if I'm not enjoying it. You know, I got you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get it. I can understand that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What is the one thing, or a couple of things, that you wish people understood more about card collecting?
Speaker 1:For some reason, there's this narrative that the, the card collector is just like um, an older, middle-aged man, and that's it, and that could not be further from the case. I mean it's. You know people of all ages. Now there are a lot of, you know, older men. There are not a lot of women, but I mean it's, it's growing. That's really the one. The one big thing is just this you know, this idea of what a card collector looks like so big misconception.
Speaker 2:Well, now you're going to have another one, another woman that's going to start collecting, you know so recollecting here we go. Oh great, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:Literally when we were having this conversation I was like where is that box of cards? I know like I have it from texas. So I was like for a minute I was like did I leave it in texas? But I was like no, I know, I brought it and I'm not even kidding. I moved out here and like just priorities for me changed and now I'm like god knew I needed to did your fiance find out for you and then handed it to you I was like, hey, like, and we have like a in, like an entertainment, you know like a thing for the tv in the living room.
Speaker 3:And I was like, can you check one of the little doors and see if my box of cards is in there? And I don't know if you guys heard him open the door, but he brought it and I know I've got a baseball, a few baseball boxes and then a box from 94 during the baseball strike that's like still not open and I don't know if I want to open it. So, it's probably worth some good money down there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but I wouldn't call myself a collector because I forgot I had all this. You, just you, you. You rekindled your love for collecting. Now, thanks to ashley yeah, this is a fun conversation awesome, ashley.
Speaker 2:Is there anything that we haven't asked? Uh, anything that you want to mention or anything like that. As far as, like you know, know, because I, you know, I'll be honest, you know there's one question. Actually, when you go to like you say you go to the these events, like, what's your mindset, like, what's your process of like, when you go to these events to go look for card?
Speaker 1:I wish I could say that there was one. It's just I walk in the door and just make a beeline for like the first box and then just work my way around so there is a process you just like yep, there it is. Here I'm pointing at it, that's where I'm going yep, um, now for, like, like my husband, he's more the. He said he's more of the social butterfly, so he wants to, you know, stop and talk to people and that kind of thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'm just sitting here beside him like look, leave me alone I'm looking yeah, I'm the other way around, like I will talk to someone would you say that this is like your quickest way, like the stuff that's back here, this is your quickest way to learn about a player that you didn't really know a lot about of. When you find their card, or like, like you take a look at their stats in the back, you do additional research, or is it like, if it's a player that you don't really care for, you just do you read the back or do you just, oh, it looks like a cool card from the front and then you just keep it?
Speaker 1:uh, it just depends. Mostly, it's just looking at the card from the front, cause, like you know, a lot of the players are like the players that we already know about. So like all of the players that I collect a lot of their careers are. They're done, you know, yeah, so you kind of kind of have an idea of that sort of thing. But I mean, there are people who do read every single thing on the back.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:My attention span just isn't there for it.
Speaker 3:I feel it.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I could just sit there and just be like you know. Just yeah, I'm more of a like you know, teach you and then I'll I'll retain that, you know, we'll go from there. So all right, all right, ashley, are you ready?
Speaker 1:I'm ready.
Speaker 2:All right. So the first question is actually you know what? We never asked this question? What your? What are your favorite teams?
Speaker 1:Okay. So um for baseball, it's the braves, um for basketball, it's uh, the books, and for football, it's the 49ers okay okay, you are. You went all over the country yeah, all over the place like so. Growing up like i't, I didn't grow up in a sports household. My dad watched two sports, and that was college football and NASCAR.
Speaker 1:He never cut anything else on who to collect. It was just kind of like, oh well, I kind of really like this thing I saw about this player With Giannis on the books. It was like a video. I saw him doing wrestling moves on their mascot. I was like, okay, I'll pick him you. Yeah, I'm going to collect your stuff now and then like with you know, except for with baseball, Cause I mean, it's just you know where we live at, it's just that's who he is Right here, yeah.
Speaker 2:Closer to where I'm at, it's either Braves or Nationals there is no in between which you know. When they, when my team is Cleveland, when Cleveland plays one of those teams, I'm blacked out in this area, which is so much fun. Yeah, so all right. So you're going to the ballpark where you and your family go into the ballpark, right, you guys are hanging out what? And then you're about to go get your food, right, the concessions, what is your?
Speaker 1:food and your drink of choice. Uh see, that's a little tough, cause we have um four kids between the ages of three and 15. So, um, it's whatever is going to be like, the easiest to hold on to Like whatever's going to be the easiest to carry four of. Mostly it's just one of those big fountain Cokes and nachos. I love nachos. I could eat nachos for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Speaker 2:Jalapenos on it.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:There you go. You've got to have jalapenos on nachos. Come on now. What was?
Speaker 1:your first job.
Speaker 2:There you go All the time. You got to have jalapenos on nachos. I mean, come on now. So all right, what was your first job? Working at Subway oh my God, I worked at Subway. I managed to Subway.
Speaker 1:Yep Worked at Subway after school.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:My dad hated it because I'd come home smelling like onions every day.
Speaker 2:For the longest time I could not eat Subway because I worked there and I just couldn't do it. I'm easing my way. You know my wife the other day we're actually having this conversation my wife's like. I know you don't like Subway, but can we go to Subway you?
Speaker 1:know I was like I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I get it Cake or pie.
Speaker 1:That's a tough one. I got to go pie.
Speaker 2:I asked this question even though it was like what was the last song that you listened to? Usually it's downloaded, but do we download songs anymore? So what's the last song you listened to?
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think because I just listened like a couple of hours ago Like a Stone Audio Slave, I think is what it was, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:Strangest things you've ever eaten.
Speaker 1:I don't know. See that that that question is kind of tough because like to me it's not strange, but to like other people it might be what's the strangest things to you? Oh, um, maybe alligator or raccoon.
Speaker 2:I've had alligator. Yeah, I've had alligator.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've had alligator bites. Yeah, actually not bad, not going to lie. Yeah, if you were to get a boat, what would you name it?
Speaker 1:A boat? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2:This one stumps everybody all the time yeah.
Speaker 1:It's tough because both me and my daughter get very, very, very, very motion sick.
Speaker 2:So no boat for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, but you wouldn't be able to read this out of it because it would just be covered. Oh no, yeah, it would just not be good.
Speaker 2:It would be a horror show. No, got it A couple more. First celebrity crush.
Speaker 1:Harrison Ford. It's still Harrison Ford Between Indiana Jones and Han Solo. It's Harrison Ford.
Speaker 2:You know what? That is not a bad one. I mean, it's Han Solo, for God's sakes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Alright, what was your favorite Halloween costume?
Speaker 3:Hmm.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I think it was like it was recently, a couple of years ago me, my husband and my son, my youngest son we dressed up as um the characters from Bob's burgers. So I was Linda, he was Bob and my son was Louise, that's cool, that's cool, that was good.
Speaker 2:Two more questions. In your opinion, what is?
Speaker 1:the most boring sport.
Speaker 2:Golf Everyone, you and me, right there. If I want to take a nap, let's put some golf on, although, like I said, I've been saying this, I've been talking to this to my couple of my friends the golf league, that digital one with uh, with uh, tiger woods, that's actually not bad. I would actually get into that. That's not that bad, all right. Last but not least, what is your spirit animal?
Speaker 1:Hmm, an octopus, ever since I saw the thing about they. Just sometimes they just go up and like punch fish, just for the heck of it. I was like.
Speaker 2:I like that. I was like you know what, yeah.
Speaker 1:They just go up and punch them out of spite for no reason, just because that's funny.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. That's funny. I like that. Ashley, thank you so much for doing this. We had a blast, we learned a lot. Obviously you educated us. And then someone is now rekindling her love for card collecting again.
Speaker 3:So you might have a friend in the collecting world here pretty soon, so I completely forgot about I can't.
Speaker 2:We're bad influences on each other. To see how that goes, where can people find you on socials?
Speaker 1:Just that, a junk wax queen on Twitter. I kind of avoid the others cause it's it's a lot to manage. I don't know how anybody, I don't know how y'all do it.
Speaker 2:You're talking to two people that here that have burials.
Speaker 1:social media yeah, no I know, I was, I, you know like I scouted them out earlier and I was like how do they do it, how do they all of them?
Speaker 2:Oh, trust me, I know I literally have to like post things like at certain times of the day, schedule them and things like that.
Speaker 3:It's tons of fun.
Speaker 2:Make sure you guys are following her. I will put the link so that way you guys are able to follow her. Make sure you guys are following City of Food Girl. As well as the Data Chronicles. We are on all socials. Kind of Make sure you guys catch us on YouTube. Have you fixed your YouTube channel? Are you up to us on YouTube? Have you fixed your YouTube channel Like? Are you up to date on YouTube?
Speaker 3:So I would definitely say in order. Instagram TikTok Threads YouTube there you go.
Speaker 2:There you go. For me it would be YouTube, Instagram, Threads, Twitter. So there you go. And then again one more time. Make sure you guys, 9 o'clock Eastern time, Tuesdays and Thursdays, the dad had chronicle sports show. We'll talk all sports. You know, maybe some trivia, uh, maybe some conspiracy theories, but I don't know. Bring your tinfoil hat and then we'll see what happens. We will see you guys on the next episode. Thank you.
