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Baseball Roots: Five Questions with The Mayor
Baseball has been a lifelong love for Donnie Wise and shaped how he views the world, from the field to everyday life.
• Started playing baseball at age 5 and it became "the one constant" through childhood, high school, and adulthood
• Baseball teaches valuable life skills like patience, reading people, and strategic thinking
• The sport uniquely allows for socializing and conversation while still following the game
• Memorable experiences include coaching Little League, seeing Chipper Jones' career-delaying injury, and watching Michael Jordan play baseball
• Baseball superstitions and traditions remain important to fans, from hat selection to uniform preferences
• The analytics-heavy approach to modern baseball takes away from the gut feel and strategy that makes the game special
• Despite changes to speed up the game, baseball remains America's pastime - "synonymous with apple pie"
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yeah, you need something snappy, exactly, we'll see, all right. Well, welcome everybody to, uh yet to be named video series. Um, my name is ed, also known as the dad hat, with me. I've got my good friend, the mayor himself, um, donnie wise. Um, uh, I, I, you know, I I thought about not having you. Just just, let's be honest, totally kidding, totally kidding, totally kidding, guys. Um, my good friend the mayor, he is also on our one of our co-hosts on the show, the the Data Chronicle Sports Show. Every Tuesday and Thursdays, 9 pm Eastern time on YouTube. Just check it out, guys. Hit the subscribe button, you know, so that way you don't miss it. All right, my friend. So here's some five questions for you, okay. Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 2:I am ready.
Speaker 1:All right, and this is how you know we're going to get to know you as a baseball fan, as you, you know, a lot of people already know who you are, right, because you're part of our show. You, you know, you have your contact on, um, on you off to work hat. Uh, your thirsty Thursday hat, like you know. So you got a lot of uh content going on which I am loving, right, um, so, uh, I, I I'm very intrigued about what people think when I ask these questions, so they're very simple. So I want to start with the first one. Okay, when did you fall in love with the game of baseball?
Speaker 2:It had to be an early age. I've got memories of playing probably I don't even think T-ball was quite what it is today when I played. I mean I can remember having wooden bats and having somebody approach it Back in the early 1900s Exactly. Sorry, sorry, sorry guys. It's a joke. It's a joke, all right, literally. I mean 74 was when I played my first ball. I mean I was five years old, oh wow.
Speaker 1:Really yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so years old, oh, wow, and uh, yeah, so uh, or between, yeah, 74, right between five and six, yeah, um, and I just like, I've just always played baseball, like I played little league. I never really cared a lot about basketball. I played some football, little league, but baseball was just, I always gravitated to baseball. Um, the only time I really didn't play baseball was probably pony league level. I got to be about 14 or 15, kind of got it like into some like middle school, it's like you know. Then you're into music and girls and sports was kind of and baseball, off it went.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for at least rec league. It was Right, right, right. And then high school came around and I was like, okay, I'm going to try out for the high school team. And I played three years on the high school team 10th, 11th and 12th grade Nice.
Speaker 2:But I've just always been a baseball fan. I don't know what it is. I mean, I had uncles that played, my uncles played. I was the oldest grandchild on my dad's side of the family Well, on both sides of the family, actually, actually, my mom and my dad's side family. So, um, I didn't really have anybody other than my uncles, uh, to look up to as baseball players and, um, I don't know, it just was always like all my friends played and and that was the thing we did. So it was just something that I fell in love with. I started collecting baseball cards as well. Uh, a little bit. I mean, I wasn't diehard into it till probably, uh, you know, 11 or 12 years old I got got into a little bit more. But, um, but, yeah, it just it's always been there and, um, it's the one constant huh yeah, it just always has been that one sport that I've just I've always loved it.
Speaker 1:So have I, I don't know, you know, and we, we both love football, right, we're, we're very heavy, you know, football fans. But I, you know, like I was talking to um, because this is episode number two, I was talking to virgil about it is, I, I love football, but football doesn't unite us the way that baseball does, especially with minor league baseball, how we all, you know, love minor league baseball.
Speaker 1:It really doesn't unite it like it does, right, you know, because you go to a baseball game, it's you go, it's also to socialize, to meet people and hang out and all that with football, you got to pay attention the whole time and it's like you don't have that time to really socialize when it comes to that yeah, it's just, it's no, there's nothing about it that same.
Speaker 2:I mean even playing football, and I played football in high school. I played little league football, Um, and it was fun to get out there and play, but it wasn't like a like looked forward to it, If you know what I mean. Like I was always ready for baseball season right the spring. When it got to high school. It's, like you know, February and stuff is cold. But you just look forward to getting out there and throwing that ball and getting on that field and just everything about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like spring is just like everything blossoms new and I guess because it's through the summer, you know you're outside and the weather's normally pretty good throughout. So it's just one of those things that just playing a game of catch I mean, you know, we over the last few years we we've gotten to follow some people that that make the game of catch every day a thing, and I wish I could do that. I haven't gotten the dedication yet to do that, but I would love to try to find a way to do that someday and and do my own like 365 days of catch, cause there's nothing like just getting out and throwing the ball a little bit, just playing some catch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm with you, man Um Ethan. Uh, he's the one that you know wrote the book on. You know, uh, catching 365,. Right, like you know, he was catching a ball.
Speaker 1:You know, uh, playing catch or having a catch. However, anybody wants to say I don't really care, you know, um, but you know playing ball. Right, you know, like uh. Recently I told you this because I, you know, like my daughter really has gotten since I started playing sandlot baseball. She's really now getting into like having, you know, having a catch. I was like daddy, let's go outside play catch. I'm like absolutely, baby girl, let's go right. Just like one of those uh moments, just like you can uh have that and and really enjoy that right absolutely.
Speaker 2:And then when you get a little older, you know you get, you get too old. Well, it's never too old for baseball, but too old to compete. Yeah, you know, it was like, okay, I got, I played adult league a couple of years but you know I was like 28 playing on a 30 and over league and you could have two players under 30 on the team. But some of those guys, you know those are 30 year old guys that maybe played some minor league ball and now they're coaching baseball and it's like they they're still ultra competitive and it just it was above my skill level at that point. But softball was. I kind of gravitated to softball because it was kind of a version and I loved playing softball. I probably played softball harder than than I should have because I mean I dove for everything, I broke ribs, probably diving for some balls.
Speaker 2:I know it's like you know and you're I mean, and I'm whining, but that's like in my 30s. I'm thinking I'm like 18 again and finally just got a little bit too old. And then last year I tried. I like what you're doing with the sandlot. I wish I could probably get out there and do something more like that too.
Speaker 1:I'm sure there's a Sandlot team somewhere in your area, dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the guys that I got involved with last year, it was just like they needed some extra bodies. On a Saturday They'd get out there and be like you know, 10 guys on each team and they'd bat 10. 10 guys play nine in the field yep, uh, I mean. And, and they were ages, you know, 20s to 70 yep, so it's a lot. It was a lot of fun, but it was just like, uh, yeah, I played like three or four times because it was like, okay, they would need me to fill out and then there might be two or three weeks go by that they didn't need me. I just want to get to where I'm playing with a group of people. I can go out and play on a regular basis, but I've got to be able to schedule that too.
Speaker 1:That's the thing too. But, like you know, here, one cool thing that they do what it sounds like collective is that not only do they have games, the teams have games and I play with a couple of teams already as a fill-in right, which I'm very thankful for but also they have the open right. But also they have the open right and you can go in there every saturday. You know there's no teams or anything, you go in how you want to and you go out there and you play, and I am having such a blast doing that. You know what I mean. Um, just because it's so much fun, so that's something that I'm truly enjoying.
Speaker 1:Uh, doing now as as a 43 year old, right, um, man, that you know just like kind of found the passion to play again. Yeah, um, maybe in the fall I'll play some. You know some softball too. You know who knows, right, as we speak, you know I literally have a softball here in my hand, so all right. So, um, so, obviously, when you fell in love with uh, with a fin here's our question did I ask you question number two already? No, I haven't all right. So here we go. How has baseball changed your life?
Speaker 2:oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:I know these are good questions to ask yeah, I mean my friends joke about the, the wealth of useless knowledge and trivia and stats and things like that that I have rolling around in my head. A lot of that at the time. A lot of that comes from baseball. Just, you know, I learned to keep a book in high school. Like, like I said, I played well again. I said I was on the team for three years. I played off and on throughout three years, but I was mostly a scorekeeper on the team. I wasn't a great athlete, but I just enjoyed being out there and having fun.
Speaker 2:And putting the jersey on dude? Yeah, exactly. So I enjoyed it. But just things like that, just learning the strategy of it, that's the word I'm looking for. Strategy and a chess game is what it's like to me, and that's the beauty to me of baseball, is the strategy of of all of it, though. Yeah, when to when to switch pitchers? I think the, the analytics itself now, to me is is overkill.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god, same here, yeah it's just way too much. The the gut analytics is what I like, so that's the old school um body language, positioning, all of that. That's what I really love, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I see that day in and day out. I see that I can look at people. I would even when I used to hire people. You know I could read people a lot better because of watching baseball. Just seeing mannerisms, the way people kind of talk and handle themselves. At mannerisms, the way people kind of talked and handled themselves, you could kind of tell whether they were, you know, going to be a goof off or if they were going to be serious or whatever. Just baseball in general, just it taught me. Rhonda says I'm not patient. Well, I'm not patient with incompetence, but I'm very patient with a lot of other things. And baseball taught me patience as well. Just, you know anything can happen. You just got to have patience.
Speaker 2:When I did coach little league, you know she would be sitting in the stands and all the people would be John Cause we'd have a bad game or or you know we had a bad team. First couple of years I coached little league and after the game she's like I can't believe those people were up there. Did you hear them? I'm like I didn't hear anything. I didn't pay attention to anything outside the fence, like yeah, I just zoned out on that kind of stuff. And so baseball kind of taught me that too. It's like okay, you can watch it, you can keep up with it, you can have a conversation, but you can still have multiple things going at one time yeah, and that's a lot of what baseball is for me too yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1:That's like you know I. There's something uh to be said that as soon as you cross that line over to this field and then you just like a lot of times, you just kind of tune out everything else because it doesn't matter, right it's just.
Speaker 2:I can care less what people back there are yelling. I I'm not. I'm focused on what.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to do. Trust me, I'm one of them too, right. I'm one of those fans. I'm like dude, what are you an idiot, right?
Speaker 2:I do that now. I yell at the umpires, at the Fireflies games, from our table up there and Ron is just like stop it. I'm like, but that was a horrible call and it's there's times I want to get up and go all the way down the steps to the net and just do it down there, just go down there closer and chew out the umpire Like, hey, you ding dong, come on now Really.
Speaker 1:Like really, come on Right, Exactly, I'm with you there, like I do the same thing too, you know, but at the same time you know it's like these are paid players, like a little bit different man. We've got to chill out with the Little League stuff. These parents are like dude. If you're going to jaw, I'm going to kick you out because I can't have that yeah.
Speaker 2:I had a parent that was pulling his kid off of the field because we were getting beat something I don't know, it was probably 11 or 12 to nothing or something like that. And his son comes running in from left field and he comes running across the infield. I left field and he comes running across the infield. I'm like what are you doing? And all of a sudden, behind me I hear we're leaving. And I turn around like what do you mean you're leaving? If he leaves and we have to forfeit, he's like I don't care, y'all are losing this game anyway. I said, well, that's a great, uh, you know lesson to teach your child? Yeah, just be a quitter. Yeah, he wanted to jaw at me about that and I'm like, hey, you, it is what it is. You're teaching him just to be a quitter instead of sticking it out, taking your lumps and learning from it and coming back better.
Speaker 1:That's one of those things. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but I hate when everybody gets a trophy. No, not everybody should be getting a trophy. No, exactly. Prime example and this is a total tangent my daughter a couple of weeks ago did not get a medal because she didn't participate right. She got upset and I said baby girl, but you didn't get to do the move that you were supposed to do in order to get the medal. I was like what does that mean? That means that, yes, you didn't get it now, but that means that now you have to work harder to achieve that goal. Once you achieve that goal, then you'll get that medal. And she was like but everybody's getting a medal. I was like just because everybody got it doesn't mean that you have to get it.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, the whole thing about that, I mean just all participation. It's like I understand, to a certain level and certain levels of sports, you want to make sure everybody plays, everybody gets, but at some point you have to get to the point where if you're not good enough, you're not going to play, and that just should should force you to try and be better at it.
Speaker 2:Yep, you know there's a lot of yeah, there's a lot of kids that go out there just because their parents make them yeah, and they don't really want to be there but they're doing it. And then you know they sometimes you have to kind of help, push that, that kid to learn to want to do it. And then you know you've got to find those ones that don't want to do it and don't want to be there. They're just bringing everybody else down too great and parents are like, yeah, but everybody should know, everybody shouldn't no, not everybody should absolutely all right.
Speaker 1:Question number three um, give me a couple of your baseball memories, like your favorite baseball memories.
Speaker 2:From playing or just in general.
Speaker 1:In general, this is an open question.
Speaker 2:I mean, one of the biggest memories I have as far as coaching, when I did coach Little League and it probably wasn't my best moment, but we were playing for the uh, well, baxter a little bit. So the first round of the state playoffs for this, this team we had, we had, we had a couple of kids, that a handful of kids actually, that went on to pitch college baseball, one that was drafted out of out of college, uh, by the nationals and um, you know this point, they were like 13, 14-year-olds and we went to the state tournament playing down in Florence. I mean, our team was stacked. We go down there and we get beat like 13 to something I forget what the numbers were, but like 13 to 1, 13 to 2 in the first game of this tournament. So we're dropped into the loser's bracket and we battle back, we battle back, battle back, win, win, win, um, and we had a kid that threw a knuckleball like you wouldn't believe for a little like for a 13, 14 year old kid. And um, we get to the one game, from going to the championship to play for the championship out of the loser's bracket and a call at home plate. Kid was clearly out, umpire called him safe, we lose the game.
Speaker 2:I turned around. I was keeping book. It was me and two other coaches, so we had the head coach assistant coaches. I was the was keeping the book. It was me and two other coaches, so we had the head coach assistant coaches. I was the one keeping the book. I had the clipboard, the plexiglass clipboard. I just slammed it on the bench and broke it in half. I was so mad. But I was more upset for the kids. It wasn't mad because I was mad at the guy making the call. I was mad that that call ended these kids' season and it just tore me up.
Speaker 1:They did everything right.
Speaker 2:They did everything right, made a great play, the catcher made a great play and clearly was out and the umpire missed it and it's just one of those things. There's no review in the league.
Speaker 1:It is what it is and you move on.
Speaker 2:So I mean, that was probably one of the memories that has stuck with me over the years. As far as coaching ball is concerned, as far as, like playing, um, I can't really think specifically of anything. I mean, I know there's probably something if I thought a little longer about it, with sure, with high school or or uh, little league that that would come to mind. Um, you know, as far as, uh, like as an adult, uh, ron and I go into the world series in 96. I mean that that's a memory that's fantastic. Um, you know, just just finally seeing the team that I rooted for win a world series game I'm still, I'm still waiting for that world series win I'm not trying to rub it in, but that's just a memory that sticks with me that, uh, that I'm exactly.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no obviously yeah um listen.
Speaker 1:You grew up a yankees fan and you want to see your team right win the championship, absolutely as you should um, and going back before that, I mean 94.
Speaker 2:Uh, I went to spring training. Uh, ron and I went to fort lauderdale for spring training and I I saw chipper jones blow his knee out running the first base, which delayed his whole rookie season by a year. We were there when that happened.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's just one of those things like most people wouldn't remember that or know about that, but if you but I say that it's Chipper Jones yeah, if you go back and look at what when Chipper Jones, you know, first came up with the Braves, if you look at his history and you see that he in the spring training game blew his knee out, had to have surgery and delayed his whole start to his career by a full year. I was there that night when that happened. It was just crazy to see it happen and getting to see Michael Jordan play baseball. That was such a small window of time.
Speaker 1:But from all accounts, I guess he was really good he was.
Speaker 2:He played right field. We had seats in the stands in Fort Lauderdale in the right field side behind the bullpen and it really was kind of cool to watch him play, see him get in that bat I think he got on base, if I remember right and just seeing him play and play defensively in the outfield for you know a handful of innings. It was just it's really neat to have seen. I never saw Michael Jordan play basketball in person, but I saw him play baseball. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:That's the coolest thing you know. I've never. I never saw him play basketball in person, but I guarantee you I saw him in, you know, playing baseball in person and that's cool. That that's a cool memory man yeah, so, so, stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Um, you know that that that's. Those are probably some of the the more specific ones I can think of right now absolutely, um, okay, here's a question number four.
Speaker 1:Give me a couple of your baseball traditions or rituals.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I had too many.
Speaker 1:specifically, You've got to have at least one.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I honestly can't think of anything specifically that I would have done as a ritual. I mean, I'm sure I probably had something back then. I mean, you know, I didn't even now I can be.
Speaker 1:We're all superstitious, let's be honest. Like you know, when it comes to the game of baseball, we're all superstitious like I know that. Like if I'm I have my jersey on and everything, I'm watching a game in the playoffs and they lose that game, I'm taking that thing thing off, I'm taking it off. I know this is embarrassing to say I'm taking that sucker off and I'm not wearing it again until they win a game.
Speaker 2:I guess in some ways I mean, yeah, like with Clemson, I will wear. You know, I try to wear the same hat that they're wearing, which doesn't always work. I wish teams it's not even just with Clemson, with the Fireflies teams, it's not even just with Clemson, with with the Fireflies, with anybody I wish they would put out that day what the uniform was that team was wearing. If you're a fan of a team especially if I go to a game and I've got a handful of different jerseys I've got pretty much all the hats that they wear I hate showing up wearing one hat and they're wearing a different hat. I mean, that's a little bit of a superstitious thing.
Speaker 1:I guess in in a way.
Speaker 2:Because it's just one of those weird things. It's like man, why did they not put out there what outfits they're wearing, what hats they're wearing or whatever? Just like a uniform tracker Like this is what we're wearing today.
Speaker 1:The football team sometimes does it for Clemson Right Football teams they do it. I know some professional football teams do it. Some professional baseball teams do it, like in Major League Baseball, but not in Minor League Baseball.
Speaker 2:You're right, yeah. So, like on Saturdays, I know Clemson's on the road where they're going to wear white, so I always joke to Rhonda if it's an away game we're wearing white, I wear a white shirt, I wear a white hat. I don't wear orange and purple stuff. I know the military game is purple, I know everything else is pretty much orange, so I kind of have that down. With football, baseball is different because they play so many different days and they have different colors for different days and things like that. That's the one thing that probably drives me as a fan, drives me crazy superstition-wise is I want to wear the hat they're wearing. If I go to afly's game and they're wearing one thing and I'm wearing a different, thing, it just bugs me.
Speaker 1:I was like, can you just guys tell me, please, just tell me, send me a text message and then I'll you know.
Speaker 2:Exactly I like that. When I was growing up, I mean, I was probably very particular about the stirrups. I had to have them a certain way. I mean, kids these days don't really wear them too much, although Eric posted a picture the other day of Zach and his summer team and he had the stirrups outside of his shoes, just hanging by the Achilles on both of his legs.
Speaker 1:Just the fact that the kids that age today were wearing stirrups is cool to me, because most kids don't yeah, some of them don't actually wear the traditional stirrups, they actually wear the socks that look like stirrups, right, and this one was actual stirrups, I mean, you can see, yeah, that's pretty cool shout out to Eric's kid man. That's awesome. Alright, last question, my friend. So why baseball? You know Eric's kid man, that's awesome. Yeah, all right. Last question, my friend.
Speaker 2:So why baseball? Why not? I mean, it's that age-old thing. It's like baseball's a beautiful game, it's. You know, we've talked about some of the things that they've done that we thought were going to ruin it, and I guess in hindsight they haven't really ruined it. Yeah, I think they can tweak it a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:We've always said the pitch clock. I even told Ben that the other night. I'm like we should just add like four or five seconds to each of the parameters of the pitch clock. This still would be a shorter game, but we had a game that was an hour and 59 minutes this week, Like come on If that was 2.25,. What's the difference?
Speaker 1:We're in the ADD generation man Exactly. Whether we like it or not, that's where we're at.
Speaker 2:But again, I love the strategy of the game, I love the flow. I hate the fact that they go specifically just to analytics. I hate like okay, go specifically just to analytics, like I hate like okay, I'm going to bring this pitcher in just to pitch to this one batter or these couple of batters and then he's done, or whatever it's like, come on, you got to have a better gut feel for the game.
Speaker 1:I agree, I 100% agree with you there. Man Like that drives me up a wall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like you said, baseball you you don't have to constantly pay attention to keep up with it. Yep, you can, you can. You know you might miss, like how'd that guy get a third or whatever. But overall you can enjoy a game. You can enjoy being out there and kind of keep up with what's going on and socialize and enjoy just being around friends and hanging out. You can't do that with other sports. You're not going to go to a basketball game unless you're that idiot that sits there and talks the entire time and doesn't pay attention to the game yeah, there's certain sports you just can't do that right hockey, you can't do that in hockey there were some guys at a hockey game a few weeks back one of the playoffoff games, sitting behind me and Rhonda.
Speaker 2:They were talking about how they were cooking their steaks or whatever what this one guy does to marinate. They spent the whole time talking about their social life and things that they do and hardly even paying attention to the game itself.
Speaker 1:I'm like, why are?
Speaker 2:you, even here, with hockey, with basketball, with football, if you're not there to watch the game, you might as well.
Speaker 1:Go to the bar.
Speaker 2:But baseball is one of those that it's actually the opposite at the stadium than it is. You can sit at home and you can talk about anything and not even really pay attention. The announcers you can hear them explaining what's going on. Yeah, at a baseball game you can still sit there and you can just like pitch by pitch, kind of keep an eye on what's going on and still have a conversation going about something else, but you're still involved in the game.
Speaker 2:You still follow it you're still part of it, and just the sounds of it. You're still part of it, and just the sounds of it. You know, every time there's a pop fly, everybody's looking for where it's at and is it coming to you? And if it is, then there's the scramble for it, those kinds of things. It's just this. Baseball is just to me, it's just the best game. I mean, but baseball was, is and always will be the best game in the world.
Speaker 1:And it's still America's pastime. I don't care what anybody says to me. I don't want to hear about football and all that. It's not America's pastime. This, to me, is still. Baseball will be synonymous with apple pie.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. You know what I mean. Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1:Donnie, my friend, thank you so much for answering my questions. I greatly appreciate that. Where you so much for answering my questions.
Speaker 2:I greatly appreciate that. Um, where can people find you? On the soldiers, my friend? I am at wise drjr, instagram, twitter, uh, threads, um, not so much on the blue sky. I've never really got. I mean, I don't know, I don't know about you, but I tried to stick with it. I don't know, it's just not.
Speaker 1:Not a thing really but anyway, trying, I'm trying, but it's not a thing really.
Speaker 2:I'm trying, but it's not, yeah, it's not really taking hold for me. But mostly my Twitter and Instagram. Instagram is somewhat personal stuff and sports related, but Twitter is where, like you said earlier, my hat of the day that I do, whether it's off to work or Thursday or whatever Wednesday. I try to come up with a different little name for each one depending on whether it's a work day or not.
Speaker 1:That kind of thing yeah.
Speaker 2:Just showcase all my hats, cause I got too many.
Speaker 1:Same here. And then, obviously, you guys can find me on all socials. I am the dad had two, one, six. That's my the sign on for all of my socials. I am on blue sky not a whole lot, uh, threads is where I spend. Some is threads, instagram, uh, youtube and twitter, uh, so you can find me there. Um, we will, oh, make sure that you guys are tuning in every tuesday and thursday, 9 pm, eastern time, the dhc sports show. Um, it's a lot of fun. We talk, uh, baseball in all sports. Right now we are in the middle of baseball season, right, so we are talking mostly baseball, uh, but we also touch on on football and all that. Make sure that you guys are catching it, because we are doing an amazing tournament on alternate identities at the time of this recording. So check it out again. Odds on, uh, just look for the dad hack chronicles. We will see you guys on the next episode good night bye bye.
