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5 Questions: When Time Slows Down: Baseball as Life's Escape

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Patrick Larson joins Five Questions to celebrate division championships for both the Guardians and Blue Jays while exploring his deep connection to baseball. The conversation weaves through baseball memories, traditions, and philosophical insights about how the sport mirrors life itself.

• Falling in love with baseball through Atlanta Braves games on TBS and family trips to Fulton County Stadium
• Celebrating the Blue Jays' 2015 AL East championship after the longest playoff drought in North American sports
• Creating new traditions like purchasing team merchandise before each season
• Finding baseball as an escape from life's hectic pace
• Reflecting on how baseball teaches us to value time as our most precious resource
• Valuing shared experiences at ballparks over material possessions
• Connecting baseball's unpredictability to life's uncertainty

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SPEAKER_01:

Alright, let how about now?

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah. Four minutes into our into the interview when this thing is. And not even to question one yet, right? I have no idea what happened, I'll be honest with you. So there's that. Okay, let's go. Yeah, your head look good though.

SPEAKER_00:

Man, well, you know, had to wait to had to wait until they put this on clearance because you know the had to wait until they had a markdown on it.

SPEAKER_01:

Man, you know I'm not gonna pay full price for shit.

SPEAKER_00:

So I didn't pay full price for this, I can tell you that.

SPEAKER_01:

I waited until they put it on clearance. So I might I you know I'm gonna have to buy me some some uh central division championship gear, though. That's the one thing I'm gonna have to do.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I'm wondering if I want to wait until they throw it all on clearance and just get it after the fact. Yeah, I'm kind of debating the same thing. I was like, all right, should I do it? Should I not? Well, because I don't want to pay$42 for a fanatic shirt. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because uh the cheapest I found was a Nike one at 37, and I'm like, you know what I'd rather do? I'd rather just get a Nike like polyester one for cheaper with a markdown, yeah, and then and then just wait for the because they'll they'll have these maybe not the hats, but like they've already sold out of the the the Blue Jays division champion hats. Yeah, no, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait to be honest with you. That was like a 970 trucker anyway. So though I'm not I'm not gonna get that. Well, I don't like the fit of those anyway, so I didn't even want to.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they don't fit me right either, so you're good.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, no, I they can have them because they're poorly made anyway. I've had I've had too many of those, not too many, but I've had a couple of those champ division champ and champion stuff, and it's just not yeah, what it should be. But but man, what were we saying? Division champions for both of us? Yes, sir, and you guys did it in like epic fashion. I mean, you guys won. What'd you do? You lost like did you lose like two games in September?

SPEAKER_01:

Two games.

SPEAKER_00:

And one of them was to like the Rangers of all teams. The first game was to the Rangers, yeah, exactly. So oh well. Well, and and not only you would have won the division even without winning today, but just to win it, yeah, kind of put a to kind of put a bow on the season. Uh Steven Vote, what a job he's done with those with those guardians, man. This thing is messing me up.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, relax, computer. All right, here we go. Are you ready, my friend? I am ready. All right. Well, let's get this show on the road and let's see how this goes. Hopefully, it doesn't screw up. All right, well, welcome everybody to the Deadhead Chronicles uh podcast. My name is Ed, also known as the Deadhead, and I am coming to you on location um from Asheville, North Carolina, at the time of this recording. Uh, my team just won the Central Division Championship, which I am very happy about. And my guest, my good friend, my one of my co-hosts of the DHC Sports Show, and also Break Even uh Sports Show, which we talk about nothing but some of the little FCF football, some some uh Formula One, and of course our beloved soccer, or how would they say it across the pond, football. So uh it is my good friend, the prospector himself, Mr. Patrick. Larson, how are you today, my friend?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm doing well, my friend. Thank you so much for having me on. You were allowing me to live out a dream. I never ever thought that I would find my way onto this podcast, and now you have allowed a simple person from Georgia to live out his lifelong dream of being on five questions with Ed Rivera. Oh my god, how how exciting! Well, I mean, I thought that I had a dream realized when the Blue Jays just won the AL East Division title, and then you find some way to take the cake. I mean, but you find some way to top it. You know, some talking about some people go to Disney World, some people go to Disneyland. I go on five questions with Edward.

SPEAKER_01:

There it is. Just wait until everybody just lose their mind that finally Patrick Larson uh uh makes it.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I think there's gonna be probably more relief from our co-hosts on the DHC Sports Show. Not finally getting done. Yeah, that they don't have to hear me go on and on about how I haven't been a guest. So there you go.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, now you are you're on the podcast. So all right, my friend. Yeah, well, let's get started. This is how for everybody who's listening for the first time, it is very simple. It is called Five Questions, uh, with the data, pretty much, right? I'm gonna ask you five questions. Obviously, the sports that we're gonna talk about it is baseball, but it does not have to be baseball, it can be any sport that you like. So I'm gonna plug it in right here, real quick, guys. If you're interested in doing this, if you're part, if you want to be part of five questions, but you're not a baseball fan, maybe you're a basketball fan or a hackey or football. That's okay. Give me a uh send me a message uh through Instagram, through YouTube, uh, and then we will get you on the podcast or even on Twitter. Um, and uh make sure that before I continue guys uh our THC sports show, it is Tuesdays and Thursdays at 8 p.m. Eastern time, as well as breakeven sports show, which is 8 30 on Mondays. All right, now that we got the business out of the way, my friend, are you ready for question numero uno? I'm ready. Let's go. All right. Question number one, my friend, is when did you fall in love with the sport of baseball?

SPEAKER_00:

I've been a fan of baseball for as long as I can remember. My first memories are probably from the time I was around five or six years old. I I just remember my dad always had my mom and dad always had baseball on television. So for those that don't know or haven't heard me speak before, uh, most of my family are Atlanta Braves fans. So everyone remembers the TVS Super Station or TBS before they became the superstation. That's that that was always the home of the Atlanta Braves for a lot of people, especially people in the southeast United States. But especially being in Georgia, obviously, there that's Braves country, and there were a lot of Braves fans. But growing up, my dad, my mom and dad always had it on the television. I didn't really grow up in a sports household per se. But really, the only sport that was ever on television was baseball, because my dad was never really a fan of any sports that had a clock associated with it. I would say that soccer came in later because my my my younger sister and I played it, but I think his favorite sport has always been baseball because of the fact that, especially in the times before the rule changes took place, literally anything could happen, and you had to make your own luck, you had to be the better team, and the game didn't end until one team had more runs than the other. And I think that's the magic of baseball, and it still has some of that, but obviously with some of the rule changes and the the ghost runner that you get in extra innings now. One of the magic pieces of it growing up was that it wasn't over until it was over, and there wasn't a clock that was gonna stop you.

SPEAKER_02:

That's very true.

SPEAKER_00:

So it started with that, and it started and it and it kind of took on a life of its own. I I can't say that I was a Blue Jays fan from the time that I was five or six or anything like that. That didn't come until later, and we'll probably get into that at some point. But the game of baseball is something that it was really the only sporting event we went to as a family. We would go to the old Atlanta Fulton County Stadium, and they were in the in the late 80s, they they were really, really bad. So I do remember being up in the in the nosebleed section, but there would be at the time Chief Nakahoma out in the outfield trying to drum up, literally drum up support. And in the Atlanta sports market, a lot of times if the team isn't doing well, a lot of times you'll you'll see that shown in the attendance. And you could you could really go to any seat that you wanted, but we we we pretty much stayed up in the nosebleed section because obviously growing up with a family of five, it still costs money. Yeah, um it still costs money to take a family of five anywhere, I don't care how expensive or inexpensive it was. And um, but it was something we did as a family, and it didn't really matter where we sat, it was still something I always remember going to Atlanta Fulton County Stadium and later on to some of the other Atlanta Brace Parks, and um, it was always something fun to do as a family. And if it wasn't there, it was always on TBS and we would watch the team, particularly in the early 90s when they started really put when they started putting together that string of 14 consecutive division titles.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I like it. All right, you ready for question number two? Let's go. All right, favorite sports memory or memories. Give me a couple of those. Man, I know, right? I mean, this is I I know you're gonna have to pare it down, right? Because I am obviously we could give we could give you the one that from you know, curly from tonight, right? Like where your your Blue Jays are division champions, and how long have they not been the divisional champion in a very tough American League East?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, obviously, tonight is a very recent memory, but that is probably recency bias. But so is it just a famous famous sports favorite sports memory in general, or is it baseball? Just baseball, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Because um, you know what? I apologize. Let's go ahead and sports, because obviously you are a fan of a plethora of sports.

SPEAKER_00:

How's that? Well, is it okay if I give one from baseball and then give just an additional one in sports? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh this is your show, baby. I'm just here.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I would probably say because when the Blue Jays won the World Series in '92 and '93, I can't say that I was a full-time Blue Jays fan at that point.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And so I would probably say 2015, when the Blue Jays won the AL East, and it was not only did they win the AL East for the first time, I think that was since 1993, if I remember correctly. Um they but that also ended the longest playoff drought of any team in North American sports at the time. So so yes, I'm talking about. You what? We don't have that one. Well, well, I wasn't even talking about championship. I was just talking about even a playoff appearance. Oh, you're right. Yeah. So you guys had done it since then. I mean, you had you had been there before we had, because yeah, it was because I think it was the Mariners at one point, and then when the Mariners made the playoffs, then then we took over that mantle, or something along those lines. And there were a few years there where the Blue Jays, for all of North American sports, had the longest playoff drought of any team. Yeah. And I was like, so just to try to get that dubious honor taken away from you, and sure feels good. Yeah, to win a division. And with the way they did it, it's a it was a very different team from the one that we currently see now. That was a team that was all about the home run. So it was so your Jose Bautistas and your Edwin Encarnaciones and your um maybe not superstars in the eyes of baseball fans in general, but certainly beloved in Toronto for some of the years that they had, and they were because Toronto is really, really special when the team is good.

SPEAKER_01:

And well, hell, I'll remember when Encarnacion signed with Cleveland, that big yeah contract.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, it's isn't it funny the the connection that the Guardians and Blue Jays seemed to have? Because because many of the reasons that the Blue Jays won the division this year was because of former Guardians players, guys that played a huge role, like Ernie Clement and um you know Shane Bieber and Andres Jimenez and um Miles Straw. I mean, it's I mean it's it's uh pretty much uh Guardians of the North. It is the Guardians of the North. We the North, we they need to have a shirt that says we the Guardians of the North.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

So I would probably say 2015 and seeing the Blue Jays finally win a division and to to not only do that, but while they didn't make it to the World Series, they did actually win some playoff games. Yeah, which they now haven't done in quite a long time since then. Uh they did lose to the Royals in the um in the American League Championship series, which I'm sure Eric Crawford would love to remind me of. So I'm sure he will. And I'm sure if he when he listens to this, he will remind me of it again. Of course, because it is anyways, it is Eric. So I would say that's my favorite baseball memory of now. Another another one is actually getting to is it like a sporting memory, or is it something that we see in in person?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, does it have to be in person? Yeah, um, you were you witnessed it, then you watched it that you went with somebody at the bar or something like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I was, and while I didn't watch it with people because I don't have many blue jays fans around here, I just to get to experience it with special and to to just watch the blue jays in the playoffs because ever since I be truly became a fan, that was the first time I ever got to do that. Because prior to that, the the Blue Jays were never were the the season always ended in October or September.

SPEAKER_02:

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00:

It really ended in September, so I didn't really get to see October baseball the way baseball fans really want to see it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so you got you said you watched it from you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I would say another memory as far as in-person was actually a game to go with a couple of friends and actually visit the Rogers Center and see a Blue Jays game in person.

SPEAKER_01:

That's oh man.

SPEAKER_00:

So well for a guy that I'm not the guy that's been to all these different stadiums like like some of your other guests have been. I I'm lucky that I've gotten to see my share of them and I've gotten to see what I lack in quantity, I'd like to think I've made up for it quality, because I feel like I've gotten to see some of the I've been very lucky to see some of the most beautiful stadiums in the major leagues. And and I'm proud of the ones that I've able to see. So while I don't have a all 30 ballparks marked off my list, I've gotten to see my team play at home, and I've gotten to see some of the some really, really beautiful stadiums along the way. So um, and uh but I'll take the quality over quantity every day. That's that's just the way that I like to do it. It doesn't make it the the way the right way or the wrong way, yeah. Exactly. And everyone is entitled to do it however they see fit. But um, so in person, I would say just actually making it to Toronto to say that I've actually made it to see a Blue Jays game is a uh is something that I'll always remember. And I'm I know it's not the last time that I'll make it there.

SPEAKER_01:

Good. All right, you ready? Question number three.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's go.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, give me some traditions or rituals from your point of view as as a fan, right? Like, I mean, what are your reach rituals? Is it rituals in terms of watching it on TV or or just or just um or you know, right before the season starts or as going to the event? For example, one of the the rituals for me is every year, you know this because we talked about ad nauseum, but is right before the season starts, I gotta buy a brand new hat or and a t-shirt right from from that team that I'm watching. So, like that's a ritual for me. What's a ritual uh or uh um a tradition that you do?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know that I have like an actual set tradition, or at least not one that's been a long-standing tradition. Actually, one of the ones that I have is actually one from being friends with you. I like I needed a reason. Um, I've also started doing the purchasing of a hat and a shirt before every season. So my bad. Oh, it's okay, it's okay. But I also make sure that I'd say another tradition now is getting the mlb.tv package every year and using our friend Annadie Tommaso's uh secret life hack in terms of getting the mlb.tv, let's say at less than the full rate. Um perfectly legitimate. Anything goes. Well, for you and for me, at least for the most part for you, one benefit one benefit of being where we live and cheering for the teams that we do is that we don't suffer the blackout that a lot of people do rooting for their local team, unless they play with a team that it is local, exactly. So I'm I'm lucky that the Blue Jays only played the Braves about three times a year.

SPEAKER_01:

So see, I'm not so lucky because we got the the Braves and the Nationals, and I believe the Orioles.

SPEAKER_00:

This is one of the few benefits that I say you have from living about as far away from your team as you can be.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep, exactly. I 100% you're right, though.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, is that is that I can watch most of the games and I and I get to watch it on Sportsnet and get to hear Dan Schulman and Buck Martinez or Joe Siddle or or Caleb Joseph doing all of the yeah, doing all of the play-by-play for it. So it's something that I I really enjoy getting to do and it's something of a newer tradition now that I now that I can access the MLB.tv package and uh at a discounted price, of course. At a discounted price, of course. And while the while it's not anything unique to me, I just just sitting down with a nice with a nice drink and just taking in the game and just trying to be trying my best at least to be just a fan of the game rather than just getting fanatical over every pitch.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean fans does come from the word fanatic, so it does.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'd be lying if if I sat here and said I didn't have a have a few choice words when things aren't going my team's way. In fact, it just uh in fact it just happened tonight more than once. Uh, even with the win.

SPEAKER_01:

But with a massive win at that.

SPEAKER_00:

Massive win. But when things got nervy there in the in the game, it's just one example of if if a pitcher's struggling or something like that, I get so into the game that sometimes I have to check my emotions a little bit and just step back and sometimes switch it off for a little bit to try to make sure that I'm not I don't want to be that person that no one wants to watch sports with. So I try to even when I'm watching it by myself, I try to I have to sometimes sit back and check my emotions about it. You gotta remind yourself. I do. I have to remind myself that it's just a game and that I'm lucky that I even have a chance to watch my favorite team play because I remember a time where I didn't get to do that.

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, you're right, you're 100% right.

SPEAKER_00:

No, so yeah, so while those are not probably classic traditions that a lot of your listeners maybe have, that's I I keep it simple. I guess I don't really have a set tradition, I don't have to do it necessarily a certain way. I just my only requirement is that I can get access to the game and I can watch my Blue Jays play.

SPEAKER_01:

I like it. Good job, my friend.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, we got two more, all right? All right, let's go.

SPEAKER_01:

Can you handle it?

SPEAKER_00:

I think I can. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. And I'm sure you've thought about this one a lot because this is a this is a good one. The last two are I I think are the ones that we give it a lot more thought. Um, but how has baseball changed your life?

SPEAKER_00:

I think baseball has gives me an outlet to relax. Okay, how and let me explain that in day-to-day life, I'm probably more of a high-strung person than than I than I probably care to admit sometimes. And my my my escape and my and my um the thing that kind of brings me some relaxation is just sitting back and watching a baseball game, or when the opportunity presents itself, going getting to go see a baseball game. It's a lot like um our friend George Falkowski wrote in his book, you know, his great book, Ballpark Therapy. It's just a chance to kind of get away from from stresses and from from you know the day-to-day uh demands of life. And it's it's just that escape for for a few hours to just to watch a beautiful game be played. And it kind of brings me a sense of balance and a kind and a sense of perspective in that in that you know, I'm lucky that I get to sit here and either watch this on the television, or I'm lucky that I get to be at this this ballpark. And I get to watch and I get to watch either my Blue Jays play or if we're going to a minor league stadium, uh especially in those instances where I get to go with uh you know, with loved ones or with uh or with friends like you and with with Donny and Eric and um our Kerbrim media partners, um, with Virgil. Um it's it's that's always a real that's always a real gift to me. Is that it is that it kind of it really those moments really make me reflect about how lucky I am in the grand scheme of things in life. Because you know, we all have our good days, we all have our bad days, but in the grand scheme of things, I know that I am very lucky that not only that this game exists, but that but that I both had the opportunity and the and the financial ability and the opportunities to see to experience this game in different ways, whether it's through the mlb.tv subscription, whether it's going on one of our curb rim media meetups, which by the way, join us for our one next year when we when we finalize that for anyone that's listening. And yeah, little thing called the World Cup that's that's getting in the middle of those plans, but we'll I know we'll I know we'll announce something in the in the you know in the coming months. But um it whether it's that whether it's mlb.tv or curb rim media meetup or just a small little trip that where I get to see you and we get to see a game. Yeah, like like a good example is the is the game that you and I saw with uh with our significant others and uh with the uh with the tri-seed chili peppers and the cosmic baseball.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that was a lot of fun, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it's just moment that that moment to me is like a perfect example of uh where I just sat there and I just felt so so blessed to be a part of that. So so and it reminds me of how experiences mean so much more than things.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh god, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean they are so and and that maybe sounds weird from someone who collects as many hats as I do, but I think experiences are immeasurably more important than than things that you can have. So and that's something uh that's something I always have to remind myself of is that those are the things that ultimately really matter are the are the experiences and the and the people you get to do them with, and um also being grateful for getting to have those experiences. So baseball has changed my life by bringing me so many happy memories that I know I that I know I can I wouldn't trade for anything else.

SPEAKER_01:

I like it. I like it, my friend. All right, listen, we're down to our last question. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_00:

I think so. Let's let's bring it.

SPEAKER_01:

So why baseball?

SPEAKER_00:

Because life wouldn't be the same without baseball.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay. You're going philosophical. I mean, deep on me. All right.

SPEAKER_00:

It's gonna kind of relate to some of my old answers. Um baseball because in life anything can happen. And in baseball, anything can happen.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah. In in in baseball, uh, you know, there's no um when I think about baseball, I always think about time. Um and even though a game doesn't end, you know, it isn't ended by a clock, uh I feel like it reminds me of how time is such a valuable resource and to not take it for granted. Um I think in baseball you can't take a lead for granted because there's nothing that you know that there's anything that can happen. I think I think in life where there is time, that time is the most valuable resource that we have.

SPEAKER_01:

It's one of the most precious commodity, you're right.

SPEAKER_00:

One of the most precious commodities, and you know, we don't get it back. So you need to so you need to appreciate the time that you have, just like you know, in baseball, I think you need to appreciate the lead that you have, and that it's not that it's that you know, it's not guaranteed. Just like in life, you're not guaranteed any amount of time. It's just you know, so you know, make the most of make them like I feel like in baseball, make the most of the lead and keep it, and and in life, make the most of the time that you have with the moments that you have.

SPEAKER_01:

You're 100%, my friend. You're 100% on that one, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I just think what is it baseball. I saw a t-shirt one time, and uh, and it and they've done it with a lot of sports, but I feel like in some way, baseball is a lot like life, though the rest are just details.

SPEAKER_01:

Man, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I think for a lot of us that are that are huge baseball fans you have your own way of defining what that is. And I don't I don't mean to say that baseball is life is the only thing that matters in life.

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, no, no, but yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00:

But kind of making a reference from earlier when I was talking about that it's that it's that way to kind of escape. It's like it for for me, it's like baseball is life for me, is like that's where things can slow down because we need to slow down in life because we move a mile a minute, we're all always so busy, we're moving from one thing to the other, at least I know I am, and a lot of times I don't stop and you know smell the coffee or you know learn to appreciate it, yeah, to learn to appreciate it and just stop. I have I I have to remind myself of that probably a thousand times a day.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But but the baseball game, the the baseball game is a chance to slow down. It's just a chance to sit there and however you consume that, if it's watching every pitch, if it's having a conversation with some good friends, or enjoying a beer, or enjoying a enjoying a pretzel, or if you're our friend Val, Stadium Food Girl, enjoying whatever whatever the cuisine is at the local stadium.

SPEAKER_02:

Correct.

SPEAKER_00:

Or if you're you know, or if you're some of our other friends enjoying it from a suite. I mean, whatever whatever that is, it's a it's a different thing for everyone, but the thing we all have in common is that we all get to enjoy being at the stadium in whatever capacity we we like to enjoy it. That's right. And and I think that I think that's a I think that's a gift sometimes. I know I take it for granted, but I feel like those are moments that we just have to remember to enjoy and appreciate.

SPEAKER_01:

You're right, my friend.

SPEAKER_00:

Man, look at that. We made it through. Man, well thank you again for uh the speaking of those moments. I appreciate all these moments with you that you know you you you allowing me to achieve a lifelong dream of being on five questions with the dad had himself. I mean, those are moments to appreciate. And um, you know, I I appreciate you and the guys on the DHC Sports Show. Uh, by the way, two Tuesdays and Thursdays, eight o'clock Eastern time. Please join us. And on the breaking even, what do we call it? Break breaking even breaking even, breaking breaking even. Sorry guys, we're we're we've been uh it's a working tinkering. Yeah, we've been tinkering with Danes for that show. So that's Mondays at 8 30 Eastern Time. And um just those moments that I get to, you know, that we get to do and talk about sports and uh what we're what we're building together is something that is a gift as well. And so shout out to everyone that's been listening and look forward to earning new viewers and um you know just grateful I get to do it with some good friends.

SPEAKER_01:

That's right. And uh I want to thank you again, dude. But we thank you for coming on uh on Five Questions. Now, for again, for those of you that are interested in uh coming on Five Questions answered these very simple questions. Uh you got to give it some thought though. Okay, whether it is basketball, football, baseball, it does not matter to me. What matters is that you have a good connection with that sport. Uh, send me a message, and then we will make sure to get. Scheduled and get you on the podcast. Uh, but before we go, guys, make sure again, uh, and Patrick said it so eloquently uh Tuesdays and Thursdays at 8 p.m. Eastern time, the DHC sports show. Uh, we talk all sports at that point, and then also um the uh breakeven uh sports show, it is a soccer. Uh the lower levels of college football, some some Formula One, indie card, those are the sports that we normally we would not be talking about. Also, arena football. That's the day that we do uh talk about those sports. Make sure to join us uh at 8:30 Eastern time on those. Make sure to follow Patrick. Um he listen, he is putting some great content out there, so make sure you guys are following this man right there, all right? Um, the MLB hat history. He is on Instagram, he is on Twitter. Uh, hopefully, and I'm I've been pushing him. Hopefully, he'll put on a YouTube channel soon. Uh so that way he put all of his uh videos there. Uh, but you can also find me, uh the dad hat on uh Twitter, Instagram. Um, I am on TikTok as well as um YouTube. So make sure you guys follow me there. Oh and threads, we're both on threads as well. Uh, and until then, guys, uh, we will see you guys on the next one.

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