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Upsets, Meltdowns, And Mercy Kicks
We trade a weekend of strange results for clear takeaways: selection bravery beats reputation, and November exposes single-gear teams. Chelsea edge Spurs, Palace punch above their weight, USL signals pro/rel intent, and the FCS blows up the bracket with a signature upset.
• Chelsea’s shape outworks Spurs’ caution
• Palace’s pressing and cup bite unsettle bigger clubs
• City’s overreliance on Haaland flagged again
• Wolves’ vacancy and manager profiles assessed
• Europe’s midweek stress tests and form checks
• USL hires Tony Scholes to drive promotion-relegation
• Premier League playoffs debate squarely tackled
• FCS: Indiana State stuns SDSU, ranking ripples
• Tarleton-ACU thriller, Youngstown State’s warning shot
• Next week’s FCS slate and live-watch candidates
• NHL notes: Ducks grow up, Rangers start hot
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Good evening. Welcome to Monday's edition, or this Monday's edition of Break Even Sports. I am uh producer Virgil Brooks, and I'm here with Patrick and Donnie and uh Mr. No Call No Show. I guess we'll show up whenever. I don't know what that situation's about. So today we've got a lot of upscrew to talk about, a lot of um FCS to talk about, including a pretty big upset we're gonna go over, and also some um other uh some I would say surprises this week to talk about. Um made in some hockey. And also, in case you guys are not aware, uh college basketball has officially started.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, Clemson was up uh 40 something, 16 at the half a little while ago.
SPEAKER_09:So we may we may not talk about that because we'll have a uh we'll have a true college uh basketball kickoff tomorrow. And if you've been along for a while, you can probably read between the lines and know what that means. First off, so first off, uh guys, how are you doing this this evening?
SPEAKER_10:Doing pretty good. Uh hey there, Polly. Just uh want to say uh I am uh camping. We're headed home tomorrow, so uh I am uh in the mountains of North Carolina to be exact.
SPEAKER_01:So but Polly, you should see the setup that that man has. He ain't helping it, he ain't helping himself with uh with with uh the narrative that goes on this show. That's all I'll say.
SPEAKER_10:Well, it's it's it's a short trailer, it's not very big, it's not the massive uh five uh fifth wheel kind of you've got a lot of bottom on wheels. It's a it's a hotel room on wheels.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you've got well no, you've got all those uh little uh um extra things, you've got every gadget and knick-knack that you can possibly have to go. That's more like glamping, not camping.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, you're talking about the blackstone griddle and the Traeger grill and the the love seat sofa, the TV, the rocking chairs, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, like, listen, there's camping and then there's camping with Donnie. Man, listen, I'd go camping if I had that set up.
SPEAKER_09:Right, like that's just uh that's like a whole nother house at that point.
SPEAKER_10:Oh no, I spend I spend my day sitting, I sat outside all day watching TV.
SPEAKER_01:So Smithers came along for the ride.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, there's there's my butler right there.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, you want to try that again?
SPEAKER_10:Oh no, you want to try that one again?
SPEAKER_09:No, no, try that again, try that again.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, you may not make it home.
SPEAKER_10:I'm her butler, that's more like it.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say, make sure you get make sure you say that appropriately. Hi, Mrs. Mayor. Hi, Ms. Mayor. Mrs. Mayor, we know that he's your help. That's not the other way around. We know he's your help.
SPEAKER_09:I mean, he probably's not point.
SPEAKER_10:I mean yeah, if I don't watch it, she'll just throw me in the creek out back.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah. Yeah. Tonight on the eyewitness news.
SPEAKER_10:Well, she does like watching uh documentaries on on wives that have murdered their husbands and stuff, so I better watch out. I think she's she's got a playbook on you know, guys, if I ever go missing, you never you know where to start. Because she's probably already figured out how to do it without getting caught.
SPEAKER_01:Rhonda wise is a very wise is a very wise woman.
SPEAKER_09:She is that. And um, as far as I'm concerned, I didn't see shit.
SPEAKER_01:Virgil, see what? See what exactly.
SPEAKER_10:Oh but yeah, doing good, doing good. I'll be in the home studio tomorrow night.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, we know you're still coming off the high of um uh Carolina beating Green Bay, so of course you probably have a lot of you have you have some opinions on that this morning. So well, yeah.
SPEAKER_10:And and if uh if if C D Lamb doesn't get more than about eight or nine points, I can beat Eric twice this weekend. So we'll see. Man, do you wish you took that bet now? I wish he took the bet. He did he's the one that turned it down.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you know, he's too cheap to ever get to ever like fall through on anything. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_09:This this is true. Um, yeah, me on the other hand, I'm already down by 30 points and he still has two players left. So not a good week for me.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, I played official league, but officially got over 100 points this week with three guys scoring zero. So they made my game.
SPEAKER_09:I I take back what I said about that being a bye week.
SPEAKER_01:So that was kind of uh I mean I'm lucky that Matthew Stafford and the Valiant Virgils had a great week because if it was what I was supposed to get, I would have lost.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, like, what was it? Brock Bowers got like 46 points or something like that. And I'm like, I'm like, what the heck, bro?
SPEAKER_10:Well, um at least you didn't have to overthink it like I did because I overthought my situation, and I would have already beaten Eric by now if I would have not changed my quarterbacks. See, I I speaking of the Carolina Green Bay game, I gave more credit to Green Bay and Jordan Love and less credit to the Carolina Panthers than I should have because I put in Jordan Love instead of Josh Allen. I figured Josh Allen going against Kansas City, probably gonna have a tough night. Buffalo hasn't done a lot the last few weeks. Um but they've been running the ball more, less passing, and yeah, that was a dumb mistake on my part.
SPEAKER_01:But Josh Allen, even when even when the the Buffalo Bills are garbage, he still gets 15 points. Yeah, well that's because because he because he rushes the ball himself. Even when even when James Cook has a big game, he he he scampers with the ball.
SPEAKER_10:I mean Well, Jordan Love's been getting that too. So I thought, well, the Panthers have been a sieve at times, especially with Buffalo last week. And I thought they're playing at Green Bay, it's a road game. Maybe this is one of those games where Jordan Love, you know, gets me 20, 22 points. Oh no, overthought it.
SPEAKER_01:I overthought it. Well, this is the first time that Stafford's, you know, where I've played him and he got me points because it's been it's been like whatever one I play, it's like, oh, Baker Mayfield's gonna score four points this week, and um Matthew Stafford has 36. And and I'm just like, man, I my picks have been horrific this season, like in terms of my lineups that I've played, my bench constantly outperforms my starting lineup, but no one no one really cares about that, and I don't blame them.
SPEAKER_10:Well, and and and just real quick to say to Polly, yeah, you you're the one living choosing to live in LA, so you you gotta deal with the Dodger man. That's on you.
SPEAKER_01:Polly, I'm a broken man, okay? Like I am I am still not fully recovered, so it um I did a wellness check on Patrick yesterday, by the way.
SPEAKER_10:Because not only did he have a the baseball problem, he had his Colts, LSU fired their coach. I mean, it's a bad week for the case.
SPEAKER_02:That was a good thing, yeah.
SPEAKER_10:True, but still it's also the program being in the wrong direction.
SPEAKER_01:Let's see. No president, no head coach, no offensive coordinator, right, no athletic director, right? Well, I mean, we have like acting people and all those, but like, yeah, like it started, it's you knew something bad was going on when the LSU president left to go to Wutgers.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, yeah, from a from an academic perspective, Wreckers is a good university, but um still being like a a president like that and and just like I don't know, it surprised me that he would leave for LSU to go to Wreckers, but I think there was a lot more to that than just and he even put out a tweet that was that was uh that suggested there was more to it than that after um after Scott Woodward was uh was dismissed. Right.
SPEAKER_09:So you know it could it could be worse. You could have DJ Durkin as your um interim, like Auburn Bows.
SPEAKER_01:Oh well, did we see the Hugh Freeze thing coming? I know we're not gonna discuss this tonight, but like did we see the Hugh Freeze thing coming?
SPEAKER_09:I mean, I oh absolutely, yeah, yeah and maybe just because uh I maybe just because I live in the state and hear it constantly, but nah, that's that that was pretty much it.
SPEAKER_01:Ed can Ed, can you stop commenting and just get on here already? We know this is your burner. Yeah, and by the way, uh Mike Gundy to LSU and Nick Saban to Oklahoma State. It's just gonna happen.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, neither of those things are gonna happen.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, you were talking about someone who has to prove themselves. Nick Saban's gonna go have to go prove himself at uh at Oklahoma State.
SPEAKER_10:And uh, you know, I'll take uh when hell freezes over for 400, Alex.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, can he do it at a rainy day in Manhattan? Is that what you're asking?
SPEAKER_01:When well, actually, you can have when pigs fly for a thousand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um but you know what? Uh it might make my entire year, even with the blue jays losing, if uh if if the um like if if somehow Nick Saban did end up in Stillwater.
SPEAKER_09:I don't know, Jolly. You tell us.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're the one that usually has tabs on him.
SPEAKER_10:I'm surprised you're here when he's not.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, where where are you, Jolly Gango? I mean Ed. Because we don't know really. Well, well, well, I knew he was gonna be on a little a little bit late because he's got a good excuse of being a great dad.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, that's true.
SPEAKER_01:I forgot he is how dare how dare he, you know, like fulfill his top priorities as he should. Shame Mr. Mom.
SPEAKER_09:Were you about to say Donnie? Oh, yeah, I forgot he was a dad.
SPEAKER_10:No, I was I've I forgot he was like a dad at home by himself with with uh Mia.
SPEAKER_01:So uh Jolly, are we not Jolly, are we not good enough?
SPEAKER_09:I think you already answered that question.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09:So Patrick, even though um your other sports probably did not go well, there is one that did. And that is what I labeled the curved slash flat brim derby, where Chelsea beats Tottenham 1-0. So Patrick's team beats Ed's team, and more impressively, did not get a red card at all during that game.
SPEAKER_01:We came close.
SPEAKER_08:Came close.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, in fact, uh speaking of red cards, Tottenham should have had a red card in the first half.
SPEAKER_09:See, I I was not, I did not see any of those games.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I it wasn't cool as Seski. Who was it? Um who's the other guy that uh it wasn't cool with Seski.
SPEAKER_08:What Rodrigo Benaker?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was Ben Kirk. Yeah, thank you. Not that they're the same person, but I always put those two together because they they arrived at the same time. So um so I I think that Tottenham could have had easily had a red card, although some people were also saying Enzo Fernandez could have had a red card in the sec in the second half. For I don't think they were the same level of foul personally, but you know the me the the commentators all hate Chelsea anyway, so they're gonna throw it all um, you know, just to try to make it even in their own minds, but they're not consistent with it at all. But that's just my opinion. Um good result. Somehow we started Garnacho when we still got three points, and we were not clinical at all and still got three points. Uh but it said it says a lot when you're meant when when the man had the match for Tottenham was their was their goalkeeper because Vicario made a couple of outstanding saves. Um Geral Pedro could have had four goals. Um but a couple from his own doing, and then uh a few dreadful uh attempted finishes by our by Jamie Gittens, you know, and uh um Geral Pedro toward the end, but especially Jamie Gittens, an open goal and he and he and he hits it over the crossbar. Because he leaned back, um, and I'm not talking about the Terror Squad song, but um he he leaned back and put it over the uh and put it over the goal, and I'm like Jamie. Oh uh former Dortmund, former Dortmund player Jamie, Jamie Gittens, um after yeah, after such a great um performance in the Carabao Cup uh to score like that and scoring a hum a wonderful goal. He he also has a couple of those head scratchers like that. He I thought he put on his um Raheem Sterling hat for a little bit and then uh put it way over the goal. Oh hey, look who it is. What's up, son? Man, what up, son?
SPEAKER_09:We were just talking about Tottenham. Yeah, we were perfect time, and we're not even joking.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, literally, yeah, literally, we were just talking about it, but um I don't want to talk about it. That's probably the worst performance I've seen Tottenham have all season. And um if they could just think uh well I mean Chelsea wasn't great, but we were we were better than you guys on the day. Um, I thought we had a good performance energy-wise, we just couldn't we could we we couldn't score more than one goal to save our lives. Um oh look, and by the way, since you've already been with us, because you know Jolly's been here for a little bit, I mean you um has been here for a little bit.
SPEAKER_09:No, and you and you gotta cut him some slack and talk some tottenum because tomorrow Patrick's gonna be have to talk about the Blue Jays.
SPEAKER_06:So, I mean Oh, listen, I yeah, you're right, you're 100% right.
SPEAKER_10:Well, I got the haul this weekend, so uh my teams did very well. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except for your Clemson. True. Oh man, you had to go there. We're we're talking about that on Tuesday night.
SPEAKER_01:That's not Monday night. Well, I mean, who else is who else is Dabbo gonna blame? He's already blaming the referees and everybody else under the sun.
SPEAKER_10:That's what Dabo does. You know that was a bad call. I will say that.
SPEAKER_06:It was a bad call. Okay, it was a bad call. Uh you know, Dabo loves to make excuses.
SPEAKER_10:He gives reasons, he doesn't make excuses.
SPEAKER_09:You reason positions where calls make the game. Yep.
SPEAKER_10:And I said that I did say that this morning. It can verify that. I did say that didn't give us the game. We shouldn't have been in that position by then for that to give us you did say that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, when you're uh we'll go into more detail tomorrow night, but like when you score, I should I can say this as an LSU fan, but like when you score 45, you should not lose a football game when you're when you're when you're a program that's in the ACC or the SEC and you're playing, you know, rival. If you score 45, you would hope that you would win a football game, but unless you're the Cincinnati Bengals, unless you're unless you're the Cincinnati Bengals, but you know, we won't go there or mid-2000s, big 12 games. Well, true. I mean, what was it, the air raid offense from uh from Mike Leach and um yeah, it was and I can't talk, my teams do inexplicable things to lose, and I'm still reeling, but um well the caveat is if you could score 45 points and not give up 46 points, you should win the game. My point is if you score 45 points, there should be no reason that you don't win the game, right? Like there's a humongous problem when you're giving up 46 points, but I I root for teams that do those very things, so so I get it.
SPEAKER_06:You know, I'm just all I'm gonna say is congratulations to your team. Um, my team sucked, and this is something that I have been talking about for a while now, right? The fact that my team lets the opposing player way too much on their side of the field, on the side of the pitch. Okay, and I keep saying it over and over again and over and over again. They keep playing with fire, and this is what happens when you play with fire, you're gonna get burned, and that's what exactly what happened uh this weekend yet again.
SPEAKER_01:Well, here's my question, and maybe you know this, maybe you can answer this. I because I don't get it. Thomas Frank is not a manager that's afraid to go forward. Um that's what I that's that's like that was my thought. Why are you playing Kolu Muane? Like you had like one true attacker on the pitch, like someone like you had runners and guys that defend, like, but why would you not have the guys like Richard Richarlison um and guys like that on to start rather than playing Muani, who you know, he's he's okay, but he holds he's mainly there to hold up the ball. But that's what I'm saying. You didn't put on your attacking, your true attacking players until like the 70th minute.
SPEAKER_06:And if you're telling me that you're that you're supposed to be a manager that you know it's all about attacking, it's all about moving forward, it's all about going forward, then why in the gods green earth I like how I just uh edit it myself there. Um I was pretty good at myself. Oh, it's only not swell. No, I know, right? Why are you letting them all the way back? And then it's like they the the opposing team is dictating the the outcome of the match the whole time. They're letting they're they're you're getting your ass handed to you, and it's and it's frustrating. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to go do other things because I'm just gonna yell at the TV. Um when I shouldn't be yelling at TV, and you know, yeah, and then of course my daughter reminded me very very stutely, uh, Daddy, it's just a game.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I tell myself that a lot this weekend, but like I don't understand, like like even Brendan Johnson, who who's gotten important goals for you guys. Um, you you start Bergval over and has Bergval been starting over Brendan Johnson all season? And I just didn't realize it because like you're such a completely different team when you're not playing multiple stadium. Well, like I mean, you have the best away record in the league.
SPEAKER_00:That's the only reason that you're in the top five. Your shadows it's I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_06:You know, I don't know. Well, I mean, yeah. Uh did you guys see the the Tigers offered school four four years? Yeah, I would have declined that shit too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it needs to be now. If you want to talk four years, 160 million, you're you're gonna go back to the table.
SPEAKER_00:Right now we're talking, but that's it, that's insulting. That is insulting.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, I know it's not gonna happen. I hope the blue jays just give him a like an offer that he can't refuse. But you know the the blue jays are not gonna do that, you know better than that. Well, I mean they've done it, they've done it with Otani and they've done it with uh Soto.
SPEAKER_06:And how many times have they gotten burned though? Yeah, but they both refused it. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:But now we're a team that's been in the world series.
SPEAKER_06:Uh well, they're not a small market team.
SPEAKER_01:No, we have a whole country behind us, Ed.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I I didn't say that. Jolly said that. That was me. We know that's your guard.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Can't believe you're saying that with all your former guardians on there.
SPEAKER_06:Nobody in Canada.
SPEAKER_01:Do you know what I saw a uh statistic in which you are uh he's yeah, hey Joe, hey Joe. Um, do I need to what do I need to say, Joe? Jolly's disrespecting uh Jolly's disrespecting uh Canadian MLB fans.
SPEAKER_06:And I'm gonna see that statement there was elections in Canada and 19.3 million people in Canada voted, and 19.8 million watched the Toronto Blue Jays win in the World Series.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Your burner isn't here. Oh, my burner is here, Jolly.
SPEAKER_09:That is his burner.
SPEAKER_00:That is his burner, Joe's right there.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, which by the way, today I finally finished all of the uh pepperoni balls. Uh and so good. They were so good. I I finished it for lunch. I had some uh some uh marinara sauce and then I put some red pepper flakes in in it, you know what I mean, to give it a little bit some heat. And let me tell you, uh, I wonder what the sportsness were. Yeah, it was in time. I saw I can't remember where I saw it, and I wish I would have saved it because I was gonna send it to Patrick. But yeah, 19.8 million people would watch. I'm like, damn, huh? That's a lot of Canadians watching one high one uh football team, one baseball team.
SPEAKER_01:One thing that I missed during the playoffs is I missed getting to hear Dan and Buck. That was the biggest thing that I missed is the getting to hear Dan and Buck call the call the world series.
SPEAKER_06:How do you guys feel about that? What like the national broadcasters calling the games instead of your local person? Like you have can you at least have the option to listen to like your local person instead of the national?
SPEAKER_01:Well, listen, I'm gonna give I'm gonna give Joe Davis some credit here. I thought for being a guy that's normally the Dodgers you know, play-by-play broadcaster, I thought he called it right down the middle. I really did. I mean, you know, like it would have been very easy for him to get excited about when the Dodgers did something because yeah, a lot of other people would have, but I thought he called it right down the middle. And Joe Davis, I thought, did a great job and showed equal excitement whenever a play happened, and and um I think he deserves massive credit for that because it's very easy for him to just jump to the Dodgers and um, you know, at least my problem wasn't the problem wasn't Joe Davis, the problem was um Smoltzy jinxing you guys, and I'm not uh superstitious, but I'm more than a little bit with him because everything he said the Dodgers haven't done, they turned around and did right after he said it.
SPEAKER_10:Because he said when they when they had two runs and you guys were up, and it was like he said something like the Dodgers have never uh or the Dodgers were like three and something in seven, two or excuse there were two and something in in game sevens and never scored more than two runs. And as soon as he said that, Muncie hits a home run. I'm like, Are you kidding me? And then there was at least two other things after that that he said the Dodgers haven't done this, they did it. Dodgers haven't done this, they did it. I'm like, shut up.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the thing that broke my heart was not even the lot, like it wasn't even the loss, but like seeing the guys in the clubhouse afterwards and just seeing how overcome with emotion they were. That that about broke me because unless you're a blue jays fan, unless you're a blue jays fan, you don't know how close this team was. Yeah, like just following them all season and knowing how not only how the players got along, but their wives and girlfriends and their kids, like it was just such a tight-knit group the entire way through.
SPEAKER_10:But well, and Bachet looking down there and seeing Mattingly and walking down and giving him a hug and stuff, it was just like and and Don says it'd be okay. I'm okay. He said that too. I'm like, Yeah, I get it. It's frustrating, but uh yeah, Joe's right.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, although I'd hate to be Jeff Hoffman because I'm I'm not a fan of going after someone. I mean, no one feels worse than Hoffman about about giving up that home run.
SPEAKER_10:No one does. Before that, what uh I was gonna ask you this. I I meant to text you this. Um, I mean, how did you feel about your savage coming in the inning? Because he gave up the the the the the one before that. Yeah, what about your regular bullpen? I get some I get it's the last game using some of your former starters, but do that in extra innings, yeah, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01:Well, uh I didn't hate it because there weren't a lot of guys in the blue jays bullpen that I was that I felt could hold the lead.
SPEAKER_10:Well, um uh who was that before him? Is it was it Dominguez or Rodriguez? I can't remember. What uh Sir Anthony Dominguez? Dominguez. I mean, that dude was nibbling too much. Hey, Virgil, I was like, quit nibbling the edges and throw pitches.
SPEAKER_03:This seems like a conversation for a Tuesday night show. What do you think?
SPEAKER_09:It was gonna run over. I'm letting Patrick talk on this one because I know we're gonna go over again tomorrow.
SPEAKER_04:Just try to let him, you know.
SPEAKER_09:I the more I let him get get it out, the better. So that's what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I'm I'm crestballing Ed, allow me. No, um listen, am I heartbroken by it? Yes, but I also try to remember, and I've told this to all of you, I think, at one point or another since it happened. It is it is just sports at the end of the day, and you know, there's more there are more important things than that. And I know that sounds like a play placating thing to try to help me to help myself get over it, and maybe it is to a degree, but it but it's also the truth. Um I feel my heart goes out to the Toronto fans for what they're doing and for the players because it's and John Schneider. But you know, we're gonna we're gonna wake up tomorrow and you know, and uh, you know, the and another day will come and we're gonna have to just focus on what comes next because you're gonna have to get ready for a 2026 season. I mean, it's what's happening has happened, and the the Dodgers, whether you like them or not, whether you agree with how they put together their team or not, they made plays when they had to. And I can't sit here and say Otani beat us. Mickey Rojas did and Will Smith.
SPEAKER_10:It wasn't their most expensive pieces that won that game.
SPEAKER_01:No, and Mickey Rojas is a player I've always liked, and he plays the game the right way. And I didn't think Dave Roberts was wrong when he said the game rewards you sometimes or the game pays you back. Yeah, I mean, Ed, I think you and I talked about that this morning.
SPEAKER_05:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Um, yep, it was so I can't I can't hate too much, and I'm not in it. I've I've never really hated the Dodgers. I mean, that's that's yeah, neither honestly.
SPEAKER_06:I I have you know, I I don't hate the Dodgers, yeah. You know, I don't particularly root for them, right? Because obviously I'm a Cleveland fan, but like I don't hate and one of my favorite players in the major league baseball is Kike Hernandez, right? He plays all out. Let's be honest. Like, you know, it's it I I really enjoy the way that he plays, and I don't even you know, a lot of people say, Oh, well, Tani, this hey, let him make that money. He played six seasons with the Angels and not a single playoff appearance, so yeah, you know, I think he paid his dues.
SPEAKER_01:Well, but and and listen, Joe, the the dead, I mean the Dodgers are gonna make moves and they're gonna get other people. Um, but yeah, the I I threw I try not to like act out in front of other people, but I was over with uh my girlfriend and her family watching the game, and I threw my hat at that ninth inning and everything that happened, and I I did apologize, but I like threw my hat, I was so frustrated because I was like, everything that could happen, and everything that was like a gut punch, it's like it could happen, yeah. Yeah, I mean, or or like a great play by the Dodgers that nine times out of ten or nine nine times out of a hundred, they drop that, or nine-nine times out of a hundred, they don't make that play, and they did. So um I wasn't surprised by Hoff giving up a home run. I mean, we he gave up the most home runs in the majors among relievers. I mean, we know that, but he'd been very good in the playoffs, so um, just a really whore hard way to for that to happen. And yes, yes, Mike, I I still am mourning. Yes. Um, I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't because I was just gonna say, who wouldn't though for real? I mean, I mean, obviously, what a dream it would be to be World Series champions again, but uh but uh what a season. I mean, I've never had I can honestly say I've never had more fun watching Blue Jays baseball than I did this past season.
SPEAKER_10:Um well it's funny, Mike texted me yesterday and said uh something about you know how's Patrick doing. I said he's still in mourning, and he said, more still or something like that, because he was texting me to see how you were doing about the Colts Steelers game, which I had no awareness of, and I was telling him about the Blue Jays game, and then I saw what was happening in that game, and I'm like, Yeah, it's it's it's gonna still continue.
SPEAKER_01:But anyway, yeah, congrats, Mike to the Steelers, by the way. But um, we did come back and make it closer, but we'll talk about that tomorrow. But um, um, but but yeah, to get us back on track, uh the Chelsea Tottenham, I was thrilled with. three points because at least one of my teams got some you know got a win this weekend because I'll tell you this nobody else did I was not pleased with the outcome of that uh I was very pleased with the with the with the outcome what do you call your state is it still Tottenham hotspur stadium is it still called that yep hotspur stadium or is it called three point lane okay I couldn't remember which one that's just not cool virgal if I may it's happened again it's happened again Tottenham hotspur it's happened again yeah this is so exciting guys this is so exciting donnie that's a cheer that all the Chelsea supporters do every time we win against Tottenham because I think in what the last 50 matches it's like I think Tottenham's won like three and then like uh there's been I don't know 13 draws but then like Chelsea's won like 37 it's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_09:I was pretty shocked by the uh reading about that result but I thought it was a lot closer than that no no like it's I think the last time the last time Tottenham won was when Harry Kane was still there and he scored two goals I really would I really like when you guys are really you know just stab and twist on that one thing because I appreciate that I really do guys uh well I mean I thought it was gonna be different when Thomas Frank got there but I guess not apparently not apparently not because apparent because I'm not saying we're good because we're not but um but but speaking of teams having teams number uh Donnie you may have a permanent residence at Anfield after once again embarrassing almost Louisville embarrassing Liverpool the Louisville of the Premier League well I was gonna say when did crystal when did Crystal Palace play Louisville I I'd love to see that.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah so Carabao Cup they beat Liverpool 3-0 yeah that was a nice win there in the in the Carabao Cup game on Wednesday yeah I I was again man well like they were already up 2-0 and then he comes in at the half of the time oh they're trying to kill Liverpool they're not just trying to beat them when I when I saw him if he dies he dies that's the thing that was running in my head if he dies he dies and when I saw him coming on I'm like oh my goodness what are they doing here did Mateta score in that game yes he scored one or two he only scored one I believe it's it's a say it's a shame because I want to say Hakuna Meteta what a wonderful brace I'm pretty sure you'll have you will have a no actually he did not score in that game uh sar scored twice and oh his melee star scored that's right his melee star his melee sarr scored yeah um but I thought he scored third what a pickup from Watford by the way who scored the third I thought he did uh SARS scored first and the third I believe yeah the uh the uh Pinot scored the last pinot Pinot scored the third one in 88 minutes Pinot Grigio did good for good for Pinot yeah SARS got the two in the first half and uh then Pinot got the score uh the score okay in there well uh can can I ask you guys a question especially the top two guys here at the on this thing tonight how the hell do you guys keep up with so many soccer leagues um Donnie has already answered that question Virgil do you have a do you have a spreadsheet no I don't do this with a spreadsheet I do have um it's called it's called obsession and uh once oh that's right I forgot donnie already answered the question I'm sorry I apologize Virgil I'm so I apologize I didn't want to bring up a sore subject I am so sorry I apologize my bad he's never gonna live this what happened it's because he's single and he doesn't have any he has uh plenty of time with his hands to to watch all these soccer games oh that's what it is so there it is as I'm you know crying in my cover green tea already well that's just awkward but no uh crystal palace also had a good result against Brentford 2-0 where Patetta did score so yeah he scored the first goal and Collins scored the second goal there wait all of my teams actually prevented their opponent from scoring anything Nathan Collins what's that Nathan Collins oh isn't Nathan that's right that's right it was a it was an on goal yeah on goal I was gonna say I didn't think Nathan Collins was on uh no it's on it was for breakfast I was like wait a second when did Nathan collins end up at Palace but uh ended up on the score sheet at Palace yeah he did because I was gonna say James Collins I'm like that's throwing it back a little bit isn't it yeah all all of my teams uh put nils on the board against them this weekend too hey what are you most surprised about the the the Tottenham Chelsea game or the outcome or the Nottingham Forest and Manchester United one I I'm not surprised I I mean I'm not surprised at either one I mean the like man united's been playing well but I mean the new manager bump that you get at Forest like I mean you know at the city ground you've got a much more defensively minded manager in uh Sean Deitch um who who knows how to grind grind out results and um uh even though man united's been playing really well in recent weeks um they're five two and three well and the and like I said I mean they're but particularly in the last month they've looked really they've looked like a proper team again uh right because Nottingham Forest is one three and six yeah but but I think it's the new manager bump I think it's the new manager bump.
SPEAKER_09:Well remember not his first game was um beating Porto Porto in the in the UEFA Cup so the uh our Europa league but and you guys remember manchester had to score within the last 10 minutes to level that so it's not like it's not like Nottingham just came out of nowhere with that they they looked comfortable looked like they were about to probably win that and then Manchester takes it wasn't that wasn't that Diallo that scored like in the 89th minute or something like that or 88th I think it was a little earlier than that.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_09:It was it was two 80 minutes I'm not in the 81st okay okay but the um but we were talking about the biggest surprises to me was actually on Sunday with West Ham beating Newcastle 3-1 and really not Newcastle really not even show up for that one which is amazing because yeah which is amazing um what'd you what'd you guys think of Sunderland's fight back against Everton I mean Sunderland looks like a proper team I mean obviously they beat Chelsea but I mean that's not they're not the first ones to do that um but I mean I'm I I can I'm continually impressed with with Sunderland and the way they play football and uh how resilient that team is I mean they're they're they're passing some big tests. The only thing I can say about Sunderland is do they have the do they have the group to make it through the league? And if they don't do they have the chance do they have the budget to get the right people in there to do it.
SPEAKER_01:Well they're reminding me I think they're gonna be able to do a few things in January but I mean they basically bought a brand new team yes that's what they did but they I think the they remind me of Nottingham Forest last season um in in terms of they're not playing in any extra competitions than everyone else is I mean yeah they're I mean everyone plays in Carabao Cup everyone plays in FA Cup but I was just gonna say everybody plays in Carabao Cup. Yeah but they're not in Europe they're not in Europe um they got some money for and I know they've probably spent it but you know they got big money with Joe Bellingham going to Dortmund even though uh Dortmund never pays anybody for anyone um they somehow did pay for Joe Bellingham um yeah they're Chiefs I'm sorry but um can you tell that that they've tried to you know uh they overcharge Chelsea for players but yet they feel like they can get cut price deals in return. No thanks. But um yeah it's um I'm really impressed with Sunderland I think I really like their team I do agree with you that they don't have a lot of depth so if injuries hit them then that could change some things but the they're well managed I mean they're a well drilled side and I know Terry if Terry's probably not on right now but I know Terry's a Sunderland supporter so um away the lads yeah I'm hoping he comes on because I want to talk and and I never got to congratulate him and I need to send him a text but congratulating him him on uh Sunderland's win over Chelsea because I I I did mean for that to uh mean to do that because that was a like I told you I think I left a message Virgil for you to share last week I thought that Sunderland deserved Sunderland deserved that three points because it was really the perfect away performance I mean you did exactly how a Premier League away performance should be handled. I mean it just trying to be objective about it. It's um they gave up an early goal and they could have just they could have just clammed up but they didn't yeah especially giving up a goal to Garnacho you would think that that's just going to make you clam up and not want to do anything because it's Garnacho but um they they did really really well.
SPEAKER_09:And I translated that to them as that you were very mad they lost to a subpar championship team and that's that's that's what it translated to I don't know how that happens.
SPEAKER_01:Sounds about right yeah okay yeah well and the thing too is there's only four points separating two through eleven in the table too so I mean every match right now it's like a shifting wave of who's where yeah well the only team that's not inconsistent is Arsenal I mean right well I mean like Arsenal's been the most consistent team by a mile this season I mean you know with City you don't know what what team you're gonna get every week um Liverpool rode their luck for the first five games um and uh now now it's like what do you they just had to pray that they don't play Palace every week and then um because I mean shoot like you like you said Virgil like like if someone has a daddy I think it's I think it's Palace uh you know uh owning Liverpool so yeah to to see it happen okay with with the first uh community shield it's like okay that's that's still kind of a warm-up kind of thing that makes sense happen in the happen in the league okay yeah three but three nil caraba cup and you can talk about the lineups all you want but three nil road loss or three nil road win at carabout cup I mean that's that's getting that's having your number well and then but but Palace has been doing this in big games recently and obviously you know the the FA Cup over City um we gave Arsenal their only loss so yeah I know it's not gonna happen but I'm Chelsea Arsenal is usually a is usually a pretty good game um form kind of goes out the window in those games so I'm hoping that we can and and the problem with Chelsea is they show up for the big games they just don't show up for you know the the games against the mid-table and you know bottom of the table hence the the um or perceived the the people outside of the perceived top six because obviously Sunderland's in there right now but um newly promoted sides always give Chelsea fits and um like so do the Brentfords and and people like that of the world um but um it's been a really anyone can beat anyone in the Premier League this season. I mean it's it's been like outside of Arsenal I mean it's like there's no oh Virgil unless you're wolves ooh good one that's a good segue that's a good segue though ah that's true because man because Vitor Pereira Vitor Vitor Pereira is uh no longer the wolves manager.
SPEAKER_09:So I'll be curious where where that goes maybe a certain uh Nottingham whole you know manager may show up again because he didn't take the Celtic job but the fact that somebody's about to take over the wolves job and then even and then have to still coach a relegated team well so their former manager Gary O'Neill was that was in the frame to take the job and then he cut off talks earlier today.
SPEAKER_06:So Gary O'Neill is not going to take the job so so egghead man might be in the frame for the wolves job egghead man you know at this point I would just call big Sam at this at just just yeah replication so instead of saying egghead man I should say eric ten hog who was the former who was the former Manchester United manager his head is shaped like an egg it really is um and he's bald um whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa we guess your head's not shaped like an egg but your head's not shaped like an egg all right i'm just saying let me you know hot dog you know i'm saying listen look up eric ten hog and tell me if you don't agree um looking at over up yeah you and you you and donnie look it up because i know that i know that virgil knows you to hopefully the wolves hopefully the wolves don't do too much here in the next couple of weeks because crystal palace call them the wolves is there don't they're not the wolves hopefully wolves thank you excuse me hopefully wolves don't do anything uh drastic in the next few weeks because we're playing there in two weeks so that's like saying the palace yeah exactly well we are the palace like if uh virgil can find it and put it up on the screen because I can't find it so okay I already got yeah well yeah we're talking about eric ten hog who lasted five games at Bayer Labercousen before he was let go let me see let me find the best let me find the I should have said we're not the palace we're the palace listen stop trying to make fetch happen you're not ohio state okay calm down yeah and even oh and I don't like you're not the ohio state I don't like I don't like it when ohio state ohio state that's not that bad his head the his head is eggier than that but but it definitely that's Van Peltish right there bro oh that's but still his head is like an egg bro yeah what are you talking about oh look Eric ten hog joined our joined our show the your eric ten hog with glasses I think Ed I actually Ed I think if you had the full like the full beard on your chin hiding the uh the nice you know chiseled uh chin that you have you might be uh yeah you could go for as him for Halloween you could have been double ganger right there bro exactly yeah especially what's the bad uh halloween costume wait so it's so it's ed ten ed ten hog I'm just saying eth ed ten hog listen we could we could see if we can uh get him uh to come on the on the show now because I mean that's my double ganger right there you know what I mean I can go give myself a a turtleneck and then you know I got the same amount of gray hairs and everything he does wear the turtleneck quite a bit I will say yes he does yeah but uh he we we probably cannot afford his appearance fee but you saw no it's okay the um menu still footing that bill right you know that's true we'll just send the bill to them look at him out of mourning that's what I'm saying Mike Walter that's a good call another one I never watched about going there too I never I never watched that show but I know who Walter White is I know who what I started watching that show I don't I stopped watching it is that Dexter is that Dexter no no which one is it the um what's the other one it's breaking bad breaking bad yeah same thing oh you could kidding don't stop on that one no it is definitely not the same definitely not the same thing definitely not the same thing but we're I put it in the same category because it's like one of those shows like that has a cult following oh god yeah I've been to the uh breaking that's got a cult following so does uh Dexter and so does like uh I've been to their unofficial uh uh uh museum in Arizona have you really yeah when what is um and what's the name of that other show the one HBO had the one with the fantasy stuff and everything game of Thrones Game of Thrones thank you I was just gonna say we got this HBO has a lot of three shows that I've never watched you should watch them definitely you should watch Game of Thrones that's a I'm trying to watch TV I just I have a very it's not live so it's recorded so it's already done um you should definitely watch it it is extremely good especially I'm avoiding I'm avoiding shows to binge like the plague why when you come back around to it yeah I was gonna say I've already watched too much TV as it is and I'm trying to cut down on my television so okay I don't know so when your sabbatical is over yeah you definitely have got to do breaking bad and game of throne it's just not it's just not my like those they're not like my types of shows they're just not based on based on like what I know of them it's just not my not which is not much uh well I've I've watched I've read enough like um summaries to be like uh was Albuquerque when I um when I watched it there was so many spots I had been to I've been to the it's a little it's a little small town in Albuquerque and the Little Museum has a bunch of cool stuff in there it was it was pretty cool stuff man yeah Mike lived in Albuquerque for a while by the way years ago that's a nice hat though yeah that's that's the that's the hat that you never commented on when I sent you a picture of it I said I did also I'm done buying hats for the rest of the year yeah look at the back it says canes I've decided to I'm I'm done buying hats for the rest of the year so two months that's a bold take yeah no it's not a bold take it's it's only like two months that's a bold take cotton let's see if it plans out November I um see but that's the thing though I have not been impressed with any of the logos that come out lately and I'm not about to spend 30 40 dollars for a hat then I know that I'm gonna put it in a closet I'm just not gonna do it 30 and 40 like what what what this that hats are different that hats are different than you're you're right dad hats are approaching 40 yeah yeah but and so I'm spending my money right yeah I'm spending my money on the other stuff for the I am a daddy I know that I was too stuck but I'm buying that yeah you're right um but I'm buying I'm buying other things that for the other channel like you know gear to test out and things like that for the promoting the other channel what who's this Ed that started a new channel I know right that's pretty cool who is that I even bought a new gear I gotta test it out I know who a dad hat is but who's Ed I and I I want to keep the dad head on the sports side of things so that's why I decided to do that.
SPEAKER_01:No but seriously who's Ed uh his uh that's a it's just a handsome fella you know a little pepper beard you know I'm saying yeah I like I like he's apparently the wolves new manager's listen if he wears a hat he can pull off like a Vitor Pereira I'm just saying you know you were saying to Colin McGuire his head is pretty damn close to me you know what I'm saying well but no but I've seen his head on the uh on the sidelines look a lot more eggy than that picture showed well it doesn't have a good there's no good touchline picture for him no there's not so especially when we're watching I mean especially watching games and just watching the steam coming off his head it's like it's a steam day yeah it's great it's great and I love and I love it when he's trying to explain a loss and he gets so agitated it's it's fantastic.
SPEAKER_06:One of these days you what would you say he gets scrambled oh absolutely one of these days I'm gonna make it to uh to England and I I would love to go see a Premier League game that that's just it's on my bucket list. Yeah it's on my bucket list.
SPEAKER_01:Donnie's gonna make it over there and he's gonna be like I can't wait to watch Crystal Palace at Molineux.
SPEAKER_06:It can be next year because next year I already have a slated for first planet first plan can't wait to see my beloved palace at home at Molyneux.
SPEAKER_10:Wow you're gonna take that Donnie don't really know what he's meaning by that so you can't you can't you can't do it like that expect him to get it okay he'd go over there and say I can't wait to go to Sellhurst to see my beloved palace is that better yeah absolutely that's think I think that's where I would be going so yeah um what do we make of Man City so far?
SPEAKER_09:Because it's right now I'm just I'm getting the vibe that it's Holland and Friends uh it's it's Holland Holland and Friends well I mean even more than this year because I go back to the go ahead no go ahead Virgil I'm sorry I go back to the I was I was watching the um Bournemouth game which by the way Tyler Adams congratulations on your first Premier League goal it's about time very happy he's played so well this season he really has he deserves that one but one of the stats that they said was Holland was clearly the first uh the first uh goal scorer like the number of goals that the leading goal scorer in city the second leading goal scorer was a Burnley defender who had two own goals and so it's like usually there's a lot more production out of the team compared to him like Philip doesn't really you're you're talking about within that game right like who no I'm talking about just overall like in this in the Premier League season so far ten matches in so the second goal scorer is a Burnley defender yes a cool that stat was they said the second league score goal scorer for Manchester City was a Burnley defender who had two for Manchester City.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah two for Manchester City I thought you meant overall league score and I'm like I don't know no no no he said for Manchester he said for Manchester City sorry I missed that part that's okay yeah so um what's happened yeah well can Tottenham pay attention oh never mind did no they can't um so what's happened to Omar Marmoush has he been injured has marmoush been injured I don't recall him being injured because because I know I know Cherokee got hurt and has been out but and Rodri you know came back and got injured again but he's gonna be on his way back but um I think that a lot of I think there's been a lot of inconsistency from City but yet they're still second in the table because everyone else has been inconsistent too. I've not been impressed with them overall um I mean Holland has just been Holland because he's I read an article that said he's making the the um the um Premier League look like the Austrian Bundesliga which is true I mean he I mean shoot he did he did tear up the didn't he play for didn't he play for Salzburg? Uh see I'm trying to remember his trajectory I thought he was Salzburg because he went from Salzburg to Dortmund I believe you're right you're right I was thinking of uh yeah because he tore up uh Austria the Austrian Bundesliga before he went to the German Bundesliga yeah he had 22 goals um his second year at Salzburg yeah because I want to say was that when Jesse was that when Jesse Marsh was there or was that before Jesse Marsh that had to be before Jesse Marsh because that was 19 that was 2019 and I don't think Marsh was there no no well I just remember that might have been right before Jesse Marsh went there because Jesse Marsh was in the Red Bull system at that point but he might have been still at New York Red Bulls or an assistant at like Leipzig or something along those lines um they could find head as coach introductory but to answer your question uh it I agree with you it's been Holland and friends I would even say it's been Holland and no one because he's been he's basically been I was wrong he was at Salzburg for those two years 2019 through 2021 Jesse Marsh? Yeah that's a blunder by name yeah yeah but um yeah I'm sure everyone's gonna hold that against you because everyone's asking number one who is Jesse Marsh and number two red ball saw Red Bull Salzburg is where um so uh anyways um we um I think it's been Holland and and no one really I mean it's which is crazy to say when you've got such when you look at their team sheet and all the talent that's at City um they they do have a lot of good players but like you haven't heard I mean am I wrong you haven't heard a lot out of Atnori yet who they got from Wolves you've you haven't gotten a lot out of Mar for as promising as as his career got off to you haven't heard a lot out of Marmoouche yet Marmoush was on the bench um and came out the sub yesterday so but I mean he got out to a flyer when he was acquired in January I mean he was arguably say city's best player at times um and um uh but Holland has just been Holland's different different class anyway I mean he just he just he just quietly scores goals I mean he just he's he's about as he he's about as um automatic as you get but it's also looking like um he's gonna get Norway to qualification so we'll get to see him on the World Cup stage for the first time. Which which is good for all football fans.
SPEAKER_09:Oh I absolutely agree to to to get to see him in that yeah um I was afraid it was gonna be one of those things where you have a great player from a not really a strong football power right and that he would never go because the team's not as good but it looks like that's fine.
SPEAKER_01:Where the Norwegian women's team is usually better than the men's team.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah yeah by some distance so it's it's nice to see that happen.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah um so it's not just the US that that happens okay no no it happens in Norway I mean like like it's Holland and then everybody else and I was gonna say the same thing Donnie you and I are thinking the same thing tonight on several wavelengths well I mean and then honestly before I get to Norwegian footballers I I like the my after holland my mind goes to to to female players there's guru rightton there's Ingrid Engen there's like so there's a lot more like like the footballers I think of in nor in Norway and then I think of Staubeck and uh Bob Bradley so you know go figure. And Bob Bradley's not even Norwegian.
SPEAKER_09:So um yeah well I mean that doesn't stop anybody with me he coached the Egyptian national team so Bob Bradley's had a colorful managerial career has he not that's putting it like yeah stab uh Egypt uh I forgot about the Egypt I'm good call I forgot about him being the Egyptian national team manager that means he coached Mohammed Salah yep that's crazy um but then uh but yeah then Swansea with Bob Bradley and uh yeah he's had a he's had a and now uh now we got Graham Potter managing Sweden where the boys are given everything um yeah so uh who's been who's been your most surprising team of the Premier League season so far uh Bournemouth Bournemouth Bournemouth uh not not because I didn't think they were gonna be like uh relegation contender it wasn't that but um they find a way to win win games and like I said they pull they pull players from the French second division that all of a sudden look like world beaters and and and listen I've said this before but I'll say it again I I couldn't have been more more wrong on and Donnie Irayola like when they brought him in when they brought him in I said who Donnie you and me buddy I know you and me buddy you and me you didn't think I said you didn't think I said irrayola did you well no no no we're just we're just here hanging out I'm eating my skittles we're learning for you uh we're learning yeah well I feel like I know where you're going with that but anyways we're I'm eating my Skittles now Aaron's not on the show so those jokes don't so wait so wait you're tasting the rainbow oh most certainly I am uh huh that c4 uh Skittles uh version of uh energy drink let me tell you is it good oh yeah I don't drink many energy drinks but um I live on that shit right now but um huh never actually One what I got a bunch of energy. I don't either.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, I got a lot of energy, but it's my coffee. And I I love honestly, I just love the taste of it.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, um I didn't think that uh um I didn't think the Bourne with was gonna be this good either, but Irayola has been a much better manager than I thought than than I thought he would be. Because when they got rid of Iran Gary O'Neill uh before he went to Wolves, I was like, after after what they did for the whole season, like that was um that was crazy. So um this is like the old school front row versus back row of your second favorite podcast.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, we're I mean Daniel and I are in the bottom. Yeah, we're back row.
SPEAKER_09:No to to pivot for a minute. Um I just do want to say I love this group of people because on a random Wednesday when I'm laying in bed sick, I put on the German Cup, uh German cup games. I was looking for Kajuslider and playing, and all of a sudden, all four of us are watching Padderborn against Leverkusen because Paderborn was up, I think either 2-1 or was getting close to tied. Leverkusen ties it, and then it goes to extra time. And man, I still go back and think about how fun that game was. That's what I was and that's a second division against a first division team at going to a second division.
SPEAKER_10:Well, we have no business watching this. I know you said something about it, and I was like, it was almost like the uh which I wasn't there for it because I fell asleep, but the impromptu show y'all did in the middle of the night for the the uh the one that you egged on and didn't show up for, yeah, exactly, exactly. But um, yeah, it was like all of a sudden you said something about it, and I was like, Well, I'm sitting here doing nothing. Let me see what's going on with this one. And I hopped on and started watching it. I'm like, damn, this is a good game.
SPEAKER_01:And yet I get in trouble with Virgil whenever I bring up Paderborn, yet he yet, and yet he brings it up.
SPEAKER_09:The only reason I told you Paderborn is not a a rival of Kaiser Slaughter. My problem is Paderborn is in a promotional spot that should be where Kaiserslaughtern is.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they don't give an FCK, right?
SPEAKER_09:They don't give an F CK, that's the problem. And if um if uh Kaiser Slaughter could stop doing draws, that'd be kind of nice too. They had a draw against Dusseldorf this week. Another late one that looks like they're gonna win, and then Dusseldorf comes in and takes it.
SPEAKER_01:Isn't it yeah, yeah, isn't it? Isn't uh is is your next fixture against Hertha Berlin? Is that oh is that another upcoming one? I thought I was I was trying to look at the schedule because you have me now following Kaiser Slaudern's results, by the way.
SPEAKER_09:It should be yeah, it should be here the next, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so well the and oh go ahead, sorry. No, go ahead, Donny. You were gonna say something useful. I was probably just gonna say something.
SPEAKER_10:I was gonna say I've got to find something for this Wednesday because that'll be you know, that's two Wednesdays in a row that I've gotten Virgil. You know, I had the Canadian Premier League the week before that I was watching, then that. So I've got to come up with something this Wednesday.
SPEAKER_01:So surely the Senegalese League is gonna have it's gonna have something.
SPEAKER_10:I'm gonna find something if I'm around. Uh well actually I'll probably I'll be working on on Wednesday, so I may not be in a position to find something, but I will try.
SPEAKER_09:We've got technically going to Azerbaijan this week. Oh, that's right. That is Wednesday.
SPEAKER_01:Can you please watch Chelsea versus Karabagh?
SPEAKER_06:I'm I'm I'm hoping for Karabagh uh win.
SPEAKER_10:No, that's actually Thursday uh for Crystal.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, Thursday you're in the conference league against um uh Azad Alkmar.
SPEAKER_01:Uh oh, that's gonna be a good one.
SPEAKER_09:That should be a fun one. Well, if it was Azed at home, at away, I think that'd be more interesting. Usually Dutch teams on the road. Depends on the style that they're on.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, is it is this one at Sellhurst?
SPEAKER_09:That's at Sellhurst, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Brother, there's a lot of matches on Wednesday. Listen, Azad Alkmar is gonna get touched.
SPEAKER_06:Have you seen the the amount of uh matches out there on Wednesday starting at three?
SPEAKER_09:Yes, and don't forget the world the uh U-17 World Cup is also kicking off on Wednesday, so I'll be keeping track of that because the United States is in their first matches against Burkina Faso.
SPEAKER_01:What's this in?
SPEAKER_09:Uh the U-17 World Cup.
SPEAKER_06:U17.
SPEAKER_01:Oh we better beat Burkina Faso.
SPEAKER_06:Ooh, ooh, ooh. Who does Tottenham play? No, uh Man Central Manchester City against uh Dortmund. Man City's got that.
SPEAKER_00:Atletico against Newcastle. Athletic Club. Oh look, it's uh it's Donnie's team that he's following.
SPEAKER_09:That's Bobo.
SPEAKER_00:That's Bobo, that's athletic.
SPEAKER_09:Then uh Is it wrong for me to say the two games I'm actually looking forward out of this batch has been Fica at Leverkusen and Marseille against um Atalanta?
SPEAKER_01:No, because uh Marseille's actually performed reasonably well in uh Europe this year. Um they've they've had a couple tough results, like they should have gotten a result against Real Madrid, but uh they absolutely destroyed Ajax.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Of course, of course, uh we could put together a team of random 11 teens and probably beat Ajax too. But um yeah.
SPEAKER_09:I don't know. I don't think the HCFC is gonna go far on that one. Uh but Ajax play is at home against Galatasserai. And um, I just really wanted to say Galatasserai because it's fun to say.
SPEAKER_01:Who is who's home against Galatasserai?
SPEAKER_09:Uh Ajax.
SPEAKER_01:Who who's Ajax playing?
SPEAKER_09:Galataseray.
SPEAKER_01:Very nice. Thank you.
SPEAKER_10:Um that that sounds like a medicine on a commercial.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like a yeah, one of my favorites is Galataserai against Fenderbache.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, that's uh if you have you ever seen Patrick, have you ever seen the um I cannot remember who the host was, but the the football factories shows the one on Turkey is absolutely insane. If you guys are curious about hooliganism in uh some of the bigger uh some of the bigger clubs and um really countries around the world, Turkey, Argentina, Poland, uh look up football factories.
SPEAKER_06:They don't have those anymore. They don't have that anymore.
SPEAKER_09:Oh no, it's still around, but there's there's the um there was a it was a documentary with one of the with I think it was a guy from Green Street Hoogans. I don't remember what show he was on.
SPEAKER_06:Ooh, Christie Hullian. That's a good movie.
SPEAKER_09:But he um he was in that yeah he won't he goes to different uh countries and follows some of the teams, like some of the biggest rivalries. Like when he's in Brazil, he follows the Palermous versus uh Grimio rivalry and some of those, and he's with like the ultras during those, so he he gets into some really cagey uh things and that.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, where have I seen him before?
SPEAKER_09:Oh, you're gonna go to international football factories?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I'd seen him before somewhere. I'm looking it up real quick. The real football factories?
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, Danny Dyer's Real Football Factories. There's a there's a but there's a domestic version with some of the English clubs, but then he's gone international. He went international with them too.
SPEAKER_05:Damn it. This thing, this thing is on Apple TV Plus. Currently unavailable.
SPEAKER_10:Damn, you weren't kidding about all the games on Wednesday. I was scrolling down through here on EPS.
SPEAKER_04:I told you.
SPEAKER_10:I might text Virgil and see how that Nairobi United and Karobangi Sharks game is gonna be uh that may be on FIFA Plus if you look for that, which is a free service.
SPEAKER_01:And uh Eli's places and all these other things. I think we're gonna have a spin-off of this show called Donnie's places. He's gonna go to he's gonna go to all these different countries to find a team to support. That's right. Um people mind doing that either, right?
SPEAKER_09:I would I would invest in that. That'd be funny I would too.
SPEAKER_01:Like I listen to the case. I would invest in go at the same time. Listen, I want to I want to send Donnie to Turkey and he's gonna go over there and say, Yeah, which one which one of these teams am I gonna support?
SPEAKER_10:Hey, if this show has the budget for me to do it, I'm on I'm on it.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, listen, uh what do you think?
SPEAKER_09:Brasospor well, he's he he saw Brussels um stadium. True, true the one that elect the alligator.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the way you know what he's gonna find a local Turkish, like you know, supporters club in Colombia. So, in other words, he's gonna end up being like a Galatasaray supporter. I'm randomly gonna pick a team in Turkey. I'm gonna pick the I'm gonna pick the winningest team in Turkey.
SPEAKER_09:I'm gonna call it right now. He's gonna find a uh a Turkish support group, and it's gonna be Besakas.
SPEAKER_01:Oh it and and I'm actually this is a genuine question. Which team is the winningest?
SPEAKER_09:Is it gala, is it gala or is it I thought it was Fennerbach? I thought it was Fenerbachi. Is it Fenner? Let me let me take a look at that while I forget.
SPEAKER_01:I keep mentioning Galatasha, but they're more recently like you know, really, you know, really dominating. It's Fenner Fenner keeps like sacking managers because they can't they can't keep up with Gala.
SPEAKER_09:Uh Galatashara is the winning of the Turkish football club. One of the big three with Fenerbachie and Satoshi.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, somehow, somehow at random, Daniel starts supporting one of those. It's like, in all of Germany, oh, um I randomly picked Bayern Munich. It's like, really? Really? Like, I don't know anything about them, but I randomly picked the winningest team in German football.
SPEAKER_10:I literally had no idea about how they were.
SPEAKER_09:We do have to give him the benefit of the doubt that he literally did not know, considering he didn't know how to pronounce Bayern for like the first two weeks.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, when he did when he did Bayern Munich, yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_06:Bayern Munich, yeah. I wouldn't take that from them, bro. I would just be like, listen, bro, y'all need to come to hell down. Leave me the hell alone.
SPEAKER_10:Listen, and the way they're rattling off all this information and all these names. Too much. Hey, I was not wrong in my comment. I was not wrong.
SPEAKER_06:No, it's a lot, it's a lot from these guys. What do you mean? Nothing. Come on, move along. Virgil got it, and then Patrick's like, what? Well, Patrick got it, he got it.
SPEAKER_10:He just played it. He played um, he got it.
SPEAKER_09:I wanted to talk about one one of your other teams that did well in the championship, but you know what? We're not going to anymore. Yeah, yeah. We're talking about Rexham. So we won't talk about Wrexham beating Coventry, which shocked the crap out of me. Oh, yeah, that's a big thing.
SPEAKER_10:That was a big that's so what's the what's a five? What's the five? What if if I got five teams at one, what's it's more than what's more than a haul?
SPEAKER_09:Oh, uh, I don't know what a five is. Usually it's on backwards at some point.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I figured you knew the term because I don't know the term. I think I think at five, it's just a murder, isn't it?
SPEAKER_06:Okay, I got a murder. That's a group of crows. This is a murderer.
SPEAKER_01:There's a group of crows, but you know what? There's five crows somewhere, it's five o'clock somewhere.
SPEAKER_10:I didn't even think about Rex and when I was going over the teams that I uh I had that have won.
SPEAKER_09:So this is a very unfortunate term, but it's called a glut.
SPEAKER_10:A what? Sorry, a come again.
SPEAKER_09:A glut.
SPEAKER_10:A glut.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_01:So uh what happens when you're a glutton for punishment?
SPEAKER_10:Oh you what you you know what? I'm not even gonna say it. It's not good.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, you miss you just missed a great joke, your loss. Actually, your win, probably to to the other two, but uh you're deshaun Watson. That's what you are. Whoa.
SPEAKER_10:If you're glut on for punishment, whoa.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, I thought he went the massage bar. There's a lot I didn't know about.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and there was five of them there. Yes, and please please don't put me in the same category as Deshaun Watson. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_10:No, I'm just saying there there were probably five of them there.
SPEAKER_06:You what aren't both of you from Georgia?
SPEAKER_01:Ironically, we're in we're near the same city in Georgia. That's that's the unfortunate part. Um listen, listen, I know I know the restaurant his street sign is in, the one that you right next to a massage parlor.
SPEAKER_06:Please say there's a massage parlor nearby.
SPEAKER_01:Not that I've found the old spap and looking that that doesn't mean that's not that he's been looking. Yeah, that doesn't mean they're in one, but oh my god.
SPEAKER_04:Oh god, that's too good.
SPEAKER_01:No, but no, but I mean I I found the restaurant where they they've at least got a one copy of the street sign that was up before you know that was taken down.
SPEAKER_05:Um it's no longer there.
SPEAKER_00:No, it's not. So I was like they were quietly taken down.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. No, I we talked about it that this morning, Mike. He was not happy, I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and Donnie keeps going on about oh, the only the only other tough game they're gonna have is like South Carolina, and he keeps overlooking these teams and they keep losing.
SPEAKER_10:I didn't say that South Carolina was gonna be a tough game. I said it's a rivalry game, so who knows how it'll go.
SPEAKER_09:I have to give credit for Donnie for that. He did not say that that was gonna be the last tough game.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe in my head that's what I heard. I don't know.
SPEAKER_09:Yes, I'm pretty sure that's what it was. So this new some other housekeeping stuff, real quick.
SPEAKER_10:That means I'm living rent-free.
SPEAKER_09:That before we move on.
SPEAKER_10:Uh Clemson does, uh, I won't lie.
SPEAKER_09:So uh Celtic has a new manager after firing uh Brendan Rodgers because when you are not don't they have co-managers?
SPEAKER_01:Don't they have co-managers at this point?
SPEAKER_09:If they have co-managers, that means they have no managers.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they've got they've got like two caretakers at the moment, and I don't really know who's in charge. There's Martin O'Neill and then Sean Maloney.
SPEAKER_09:I think Martin O'Neill is the main one in charge.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, am I wrong? Then I guess Sean Maloney would be like the the his assistant.
SPEAKER_09:I think that's how to put that, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_09:So they um they had to make a change because I said they lost the hearts, and then um, to make it worse, they tied Rangers 1-1, which if you're trying to catch up with a team that's already nine points ahead, having a draw is not really gonna help you.
SPEAKER_05:Nope.
SPEAKER_09:So um a few other things to talk about. I want to go to the Italian league for a moment. Uh, first off, the complete shocker of Fiorentina being 19, and I thought it was maybe they're injured and all that. I watched their game against Enter, and they are just dreadful.
SPEAKER_01:Who's managing Fiorentina right now?
SPEAKER_09:Uh, that's a good question.
SPEAKER_01:Because I feel like they lost their manager to another job.
SPEAKER_09:I thought I just have that up. Let me find that real quick.
SPEAKER_01:It's not Giovanni Trapitoni, is it? No kidding. Giovanni Trappitoni is probably like 90 at this point.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, of course that's not gonna be manager.
SPEAKER_01:Did Maurizio Sari make his way? Oh, it's Pioli.
SPEAKER_09:No, Pioli has just been is gone.
SPEAKER_01:Well Pioli bought him replaced by uh but but I mean that's uh that's a pretty big uh like he was just in Saudi Arabia before in Saudi before this.
SPEAKER_09:Oh yes, that's definitely that's definitely a pretty big name to uh because he was he was he was at Milan for like five five years. And they have David De Gea in Bully. So like I said, they've got they've got they've got some good players, but also players on the older side.
SPEAKER_01:Apparently apparently they've got the menu the they've got like the last year of Man United De Gea rather than yeah, but they're not last in uh serie A because that belongs actually.
SPEAKER_09:No, I have to take that back. They are last in Serie A because Genoa, who was last before I took a look at the table again, won their game and they fired their coach. Do you know who their coach was, Patrick? Patrick Vieira, exactly, someone who I didn't even know was coaching.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I only knew I only knew that he was still with them because I knew he went there, but I only knew he was still with them because Atlantic United was linked with them, and I said, please no, please no.
SPEAKER_09:But the last thing I want to talk about in Italy, um, I saw a name appear on a score sheet recently of someone who I did not even realize left their club. And that is uh are you from the with the uh team Criminese?
SPEAKER_01:I am, and in fact, I knew before you said that I knew who I know who you were gonna be talking about.
SPEAKER_09:Mr. Vardi, Mr. Lester Lesen Legend himself has scored a grace in Italy, and usually Jamie Vardi I find I find it intriguing keeping track of English players that are um playing in other leagues because usually you don't it's I'm not gonna say it's rare, but you partly kind of see that, so something else to keep an eye on.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, I mean Donnie's the one that kept me up to date on that. He goes, he said, Did you know that Jamie Vardy went to Creminense? And I was like, excuse me, and then he was giving me all these little stats and everything else. So thank you, Donnie.
SPEAKER_09:I I impress with you, Donnie.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:All right, so Donnie's in a rich vein.
SPEAKER_01:Donnie's in a rich vein of form with his soccer knowledge, I gotta tell you. In all seriousness, you've done a really good job of like spouting out stats and everything else. You've done considering you've been like a Palace supporter for five for like five seconds, you've done a really good job about learning the club. I'm very impressed.
SPEAKER_05:You're muted.
SPEAKER_10:Can't hear you, but um sorry, the ice maker was going off a minute ago, and I'm muted. Um, yeah, I've uh I'm searching uh right now for a uh South Carolina chapter of an Italian league club and a big NAP showing up somewhere. No, just kidding. Napoli.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, nah I swear if you have a Napoli if you have a Napoli supporters group in Colombia, I freaking swear. I have no problem with that. Neither no, but I'm just saying, like, in all in of all places, like if Lexington or or like Columbia has a specific Napoli watch what they do, watch what they do. They will, they will like AC Milan. Mate Milan, I would not be surprised at all, but like you're starting to get a little like Napoli's a big club, but you're starting to get you know, like down the weeds a little bit when you start going with the Napoli's and as far as supporters as far as supporters club.
SPEAKER_07:You're actually Sassulolo or something. You what? You're acting like he said Sassulolo or something.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I well, I wouldn't be surprised. He keeps accusing me of picking the best team in the league. I wouldn't be surprised if Sasuolo, you know, had a had a club there, and they're a huge club. But uh Massive club. Massive club. But but uh Virgil and I will stick with Palermo.
SPEAKER_09:Uh bring on the Pink Kets. Oh, I hope to see them back in Serie A. That that's a team that gets to be high.
SPEAKER_01:Are they in Serie B anymore?
SPEAKER_09:That's a good question.
SPEAKER_01:I think they are because I was gonna say they had a precipitous fall from Grace. At least that's what Ed told me.
SPEAKER_06:Uh uh Donnie, there is a uh Napoli Club Carolina, the first national, the first Napoli fan club connecting fans across North and South Carolina. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02:Come on.
SPEAKER_06:It's on it's on Twitter. I swear, I'm not kidding.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my gosh. He's gonna he's gonna get caught up with them and he's gonna say, I'm gonna end up at the Stadio San Paolo.
SPEAKER_06:Granted, they haven't done anything for like a long time, but it they're there. So just so you know. Also, a Phoenix Club you can bring back.
SPEAKER_01:Donnie's gonna Donnie's gonna throw Donnie's gonna get a hold of that account and he's gonna throw up a few selfies in front of their uh home pub, and uh it's gonna reinvigorate everything, and he's gonna say he's gonna have a McTominay jersey on, and uh, you know, say he's uh that he that he's um Neapolitan. Oh yeah, I see that now.
SPEAKER_09:So they are they are fifth in Serie B right now.
SPEAKER_01:Palermo is?
SPEAKER_09:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Good for them. Because that because that that hasn't been the case recently.
SPEAKER_08:No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01:No, but but but Napoli speaking of Napoli's been struggling a little bit this season. And is Antonio Conte's job in jeopardy? No, I don't think so. Unless he forms unless he gets up and storms out like he does.
SPEAKER_06:Uh Donnie, I asked uh Google Gemini. Okay, you ready for this? Uh-huh. There is no dedicated Napoli backers group, official or unofficial fan club, located specifically within South uh Columbia, South Carolina. However, there is a regional group called the Napoli Club Carolina, which connects fans across both North and South Carolina. For watching games in Columbia, you can go to the British Bulldog pub, uh Public House, also other live sports bars in Hickory Tavern and Twin Peaks. So just so you know, there's some options for you. Wait, Davy Boy Smith is a Napoli supporter?
SPEAKER_09:That seems to me.
SPEAKER_01:Huh. By the way, um, since you're a Napoli supporter now, Donnie, isn't is Maradona gonna end up being their top scorer this season or what?
SPEAKER_10:Sure.
unknown:I don't know.
SPEAKER_10:But I will go uh I will go to the British Bulldog pub and uh and and no more teams research.
SPEAKER_04:Oh I just heard, I just heard it, I just heard it, I just heard it. No more teams, no more teams.
SPEAKER_10:Damn it. I didn't mute the butt.
SPEAKER_04:Hit the mute button. Oh man.
SPEAKER_02:No more teams.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, don't get me in trouble, boys.
SPEAKER_04:You're in trouble, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, hey, it's Ed's faith.
SPEAKER_06:No more teams, it's Ed's fault.
SPEAKER_09:I couldn't hear that first one, but I heard more teams.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah, I didn't hear the no. All I heard is more teams.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, no, I think that I think I think that's a comma. It's like, no, more teams. That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, I love Rhonda Wise. Oh man.
SPEAKER_04:This is great. Yeah, I love it. Oh my god, that's too funny. Too funny.
SPEAKER_09:So there is one more thing soccer-related, we do need to talk about. And while this is kind of um, is it more domestic related than Premier League related, but it involves a Premier League person? So the Premier League, a former Premier League chief, Tony Scholes, not related to Paul Patrick, um is um leading the uh leading the USL change from uh relegation the for promotion relegation. Um when I first saw this news, I was thinking, is this some kind of disgraced guy that left? And like how like how former was he? And it's like, oh, that was his current job.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So he's not former. He he wasn't former until he accepted this position, right?
SPEAKER_09:So this is um to put it very lightly, kind of a big deal.
SPEAKER_06:That means this is picking up some steam of what we've been talking about for a while now, right?
SPEAKER_00:Relegation. Well, the word that came to mind for me is like is legitimacy.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, okay. I like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, I'm just saying, in terms of like you've got someone who knows how ProRel works in Tony Skulls, and um you've got some so it it it's it it's yeah, it's that and it's also credibility. He's the he's uh he's division one president, yeah. Legitimacy and credibility.
SPEAKER_06:So that's big time.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, you know, ideally in a perfect world, you'd have MLS jumping on to play nice, but you know that ain't gonna happen. Um, they love their franchise model and they're gonna stick to that, but it's still gonna make USL a fun product to watch.
SPEAKER_06:Um the problem is if if MLS is not careful, USL can you know definitely jump into popularity and then overtake MLS in a couple years.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it depends on it depends on what kind of players you can attract to USL. Yeah, I mean it's only gonna be as good, it's only gonna be as good as the level of player that you can attract. And let's face it, no European player is ever gonna go to USL before they go to MLS.
SPEAKER_06:No, no, but I think we're definitely years away from established Premier League players, established Premier League players.
SPEAKER_01:But I'm not saying it can't happen.
SPEAKER_06:No, no, no, no, no, no. I agree. I I'm just saying that we're still years away from legitimacy of the USL and and but at least this is a massive step into what you know. We here's the one thing that uh it bugs me about Premier League and all that relegation. I love relegation. I just wish at the top they would have a playoff format instead of just like the top team up the top team one, we're gonna good. Congratulations. You're saying in USL? No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00:In Premier League, you know, see, I'm not see that's the thing, though.
SPEAKER_06:You're old school dudes are like, oh no, no, no, can't have that, don't ruin it. Bring some playoff system, let's go.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to Americanize the English system. Playoffs are an American are an American thing, not shit. Yeah, yeah. I am not a fan of bringing that to the Premier League. Why not? Why tell me why? What because I like the way that it works.
SPEAKER_06:I think that because okay, so the one team that's at the top at the beginning of the season, or whoever at the end of the season, that's the one who who is named champion. That's it.
SPEAKER_01:There is no playoff format in which you know because because whoever can be the most consistent over 38 games deserves to win the title.
SPEAKER_00:I just don't I don't I don't agree with that. I think there should be a playoff format. I agree with the relegation.
SPEAKER_01:You think that, but I but I'm saying, like, you know, that's gonna be it'll never happen in the Premier League. I know that. Well, I'm saying, but um, I like the like I like the fact that it's different that way. Like I I like you have cup competitions to try to work with you know outside the league to try to win things.
SPEAKER_10:So Patrick's then morphed into Greg Sankey here.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, my god. I've what you've morphed into Greg Sankey, yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Sure do that's such an SEC answer right there. I'm I'm happy about how things are.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, just let him be. Can't touch her, don't touch it.
SPEAKER_01:No, I just think it's the magic, I think it's the magic of the Premier League that way.
SPEAKER_06:It is not listen, I'm not saying it's not a put you. You know how much much more fun you'll have, let's say the top four teams go into a playoff format system, and then the winners, you know, the two top go and again and win the championship. Yeah, that makes it a lot more interesting. There's a lot more story to tell in a in a system in which you have the top four teams put, let's just say, in the Premier League.
SPEAKER_01:I want to get Virgil in on this. Virgil, uh Ed sounds like one of those American owners that takes over an English and an English Premier League club. He said he wants to he said he wants to see playoffs introduced to the English Premier League.
SPEAKER_09:Top playoffs. They already have playoffs. That's called the uh promotion playoffs down the championship league.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, he wants to he wants to see the the top explain. Yeah, explain Ed what you want to see, please.
SPEAKER_06:You have already the relegation system, which is I am a huge imassive fan of relegation. I love it. When my point is, let's say that you grab the top four teams in the Premier League and then have a playoff format system, the top, you know, the you know, one against four, four, you know, two against three, then the the winners go into a championship format. But like the fact that like the top team automatically wins it, and then there's no like you know, no five, just I don't like it. I so what's the point in playing 38 games? What's the point of playing 162 games and then you got another you know game system in in Major League Baseball?
SPEAKER_01:Because we're in America where they do playoffs.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna sign off on that.
SPEAKER_01:That's kind of and by the way, I didn't realize Todd Bowley joined our show.
SPEAKER_10:Well, while you were away, Virgil, the the because Patrick was making his argument that you know that he liked it the way it is, and the top team after 38 games should be to crown the champion, and I called him Greg Sankey. So he's you know got that going on.
SPEAKER_09:Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on, hold on, hold on.
SPEAKER_06:He's not wrong.
SPEAKER_09:That no out of those thirty-eight games, how many of them are hypothetical games? Because that's what uh that's what a Greg Sankey would be.
SPEAKER_10:Well, the SEC wants their their teams to be the top teams, and and whoever's the best one of those is the champion everywhere.
SPEAKER_01:That's not that's not an apples to apples comparison.
SPEAKER_10:I know, I'm joking.
SPEAKER_09:But see, the difference though is just that you know, and I don't even know if this is true for MLS, so if this is not, do all the teams play each other in MLS? No, that's your problem.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because well, because you only play certain you play multiple teams, you play eastern conference teams multiple times, but you only play certain West Coast. You have the NFL three years, yeah. It's like every three years.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, that's why you have a playoff system because you don't go through a regular season where you're not playing every single team at the Premier League and all the other domestic leagues, you are playing them twice.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:So that's why I don't think a playoff would be necessary.
SPEAKER_01:Well, uh and I think that your reward consistency over 38 games, right? Like, really at the end of 38 games, the the the the table doesn't lie. Yeah, you're gonna have certain games where you deserve three points. There's certain games where you're not gonna earn three points, and there's gonna be draws somewhere in there where you're like you don't earn it, but usually it balances itself out over the course of 38 games.
SPEAKER_06:Well, call me call me someone who likes to see chaos. Uh and I just want to say listeners still have chaos in it. I like that.
SPEAKER_01:Well, when Donnie and Ed want to introduce the all-star game into the English Premier League, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_05:Slow down, slow down. No, let's not get a star.
SPEAKER_01:I just want to say you want to introduce playoffs.
SPEAKER_06:You apparently see an all-star game in any sport at any point anymore.
SPEAKER_10:So let's I didn't say that I was totally agreeing with Ed either. I you didn't jump off the ship. Look who's jumping off the ship. I like I like what what there is there. I mean, I like how the lower leagues kind of have that going for them to get to the Premier League, and I'm okay with the Premier League saying, hey, whoever's the best team throughout the season here is gonna be the champion.
SPEAKER_06:That just gives you more game, more matches to play.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, all that's all I'm saying is well, they play all these other cups and stuff in the meantime as well, so there is kind of some of that going on in you gotta remember with some of the drama for the last day, it's not always relegation drama.
SPEAKER_09:There could be somebody fighting for a place in Europe, like a champions league versus I'm with you guys, I get it.
SPEAKER_06:I'm I'm not disagreeing with the FA Cup or the Carabao Cup. I like those games, I will punch you in the throat. All I'm saying is at the end of the the the Premier League season, why not have a four-team playoff system? I think that's that's excitement.
SPEAKER_01:Well, there but like Virgil was referencing earlier, it's not in the Premier League, but there are leagues. I know in the championship. Well, well, but there's it's not even so much the championship, but is it Virgil? Correct me if I'm wrong, is it is it France? Is it Spain where they do that or France? Where like the you know how there's or is it Germany where there's the uh the relegation and then there's the promotion places in the uh in the in the first and second division?
SPEAKER_09:So yeah, Germany has the uh the last the bottom two teams get relegated, then the eighth place team plays the third place or fourth place game. That's what Bundesliga two for a promotion relegation playoff.
SPEAKER_01:Which I think that I think that's kind of a cool thing.
SPEAKER_09:One of the things that Daphne, I think it's the Belgian league that does this. Um in the they will play their season and then they will split off between a winner's bracket and a loser's bracket. So in a way, so you kind of have a playoff scenario in that case. So different different leagues do have different things.
SPEAKER_06:La Liga does the same thing as Europe, as uh uh Premier League, where they have the um playoff system for promotion relegation with the uh segunda DBCO. That's it. So I'm just saying, I just think it would be cool to see. My bad, I brought it, you know, something to just you know all of a sudden get off my lawn, you know.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no.
SPEAKER_06:Don't ruin things for the rest of us.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, NIP right here, not in my backyard.
SPEAKER_06:Get off my lawn.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you know who's the old guy now? Virgil's no longer you right here, 40 this week, baby. So I'm the old guy now.
SPEAKER_09:Uh quick aside, hey, remember when you guys said the Dallas Cowboys were gonna kill the Cardinals? How that's working for you.
SPEAKER_03:Row.
SPEAKER_01:Not too well. Wait, how is CeeDee Lamb doing? Because I've got invested interest in this game. Not too well. I was down by 30. I I'll be I'll fully go ahead and say I'm a Donnie Wise fan in this game right now.
SPEAKER_09:I do. But I don't I was down about 30 points. I had one player left. He had two players left. My player was Jacoby Bursett, and I am now down 16 points.
SPEAKER_06:I'm gonna win my league, my game. I'm not gonna win mine.
SPEAKER_01:Against your lovely wife. Ooh, you are winning. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_08:Good for you.
SPEAKER_00:Wow, you finally had a former Browns quarterback that hit. Yeah, Joe Flackle, 30 points. Golly.
SPEAKER_09:All right, so speaking of football, let's transition Marvin Harrison Jr., by the way. I know to FCS.
SPEAKER_06:Do you know what it is? And I'm sorry, I'll bring I'll set up, but you know what it is? He actually has an actual quarterback that can see over the uh offensive line that can throw the ball to him. Or that can actually play quarterback. Okay, and actually play quarterback.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, uh another another former Brown, by the way.
SPEAKER_10:Correct.
SPEAKER_06:Jacoby Brissett. Well, he all the most.
SPEAKER_10:And before we finish soccer, uh don't don't sleep on the uh Canadian Premier League Championship on Sunday. You gotta watch a quarter of Calvary. It's 5 p.m. on Sunday the 9th.
SPEAKER_01:Are you gonna be there with Jesse Marsh to watch it?
SPEAKER_10:Uh defending champion Calvary looks to go for the repeat against uh Atletico Ottawa.
SPEAKER_06:I don't know. I might I I don't know. We'll see. If I have time, if I'm allowed. I might I I am watching um uh the uh North Carolina uh team play this weekend here in Kerry.
SPEAKER_01:So North Carolina Courage? No, that's the women's team. Yeah, but you're watching like the the USL North Carolina USL.
SPEAKER_06:No, uh uh North Carolina FC.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06:Birmingham Legion?
SPEAKER_09:No, no, not that. So let's let's talk. Are you just naming random teams now?
SPEAKER_01:Ford Madison?
SPEAKER_09:Okay, let's just let's let's just move on from this. So a lot of FC has to talk about, and I'm gonna go ahead and just say this now. We're gonna talk about Mercer Furman for a minute. At one point, Furman was up 13-0, and I may have been trying to find a way not to do this show at that time. Because I was thinking to myself, dear lord, Mercer's gonna F this up.
SPEAKER_01:Well, because you because you don't want you didn't want to be cooked uh along with Phil's chili, right? When he doesn't have chili cook-off.
SPEAKER_09:I did not want to be burned like I did not want to be cooked like his uh carne asada tacos.
SPEAKER_01:Oh that sounds good right now. It does sound good. Carne asada.
SPEAKER_09:But there were some games that we we picked that were actually some pretty good ones, some a little surprising, but there's one that we did not look over because I did not expect this. Indiana State, the Sycamores go into Brookings, South Dakota, and beat South Dakota State.
SPEAKER_06:I did not see that coming.
SPEAKER_09:By far has to be the worst loss in that program's history, like recent history.
SPEAKER_01:110. Yeah, and so the so the so the Larry Birds went into South Dakota and won?
SPEAKER_09:The Larry Birds went into South Dakota, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:They did. What did I tell you though? What did I tell you about the the Norfolk Delaware game? It was gonna be a good one.
SPEAKER_09:Uh yeah, and it was definitely not a good one.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, it was not for you guys.
SPEAKER_09:No, no, I'll be fair. It was actually it was actually a pretty fun game. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Did I pick that correctly? Just so I wanna for my own.
SPEAKER_09:Yes, yes, you you picked that one correctly. Congratulations.
SPEAKER_01:I'm glad you got a correct pick this weekend because I don't think I don't think I picked one game correctly.
SPEAKER_09:You're not Patrick, you're not last, I will tell you that. Uh it's it's me though. No, it's not you.
SPEAKER_06:So I did pick some wild games all.
SPEAKER_09:You did pick Donnie, it's not you either.
SPEAKER_06:So we actually let it be Eric.
SPEAKER_09:It's not Eric. So we have dang it. I don't know who that leaves, but let's just move on from that. So we actually have a winless team that has won a game.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, yeah, let's go ahead.
SPEAKER_09:Now, without you guys looking, I want you to see if you can guess who between Murray State, Portland State, and St. Francis. Donnie, I know you're looking at your screen. You're you're uh I can see the reflection off your scattering your glasses.
SPEAKER_10:I did have the scores up here because I was looking for something else, but I I don't I didn't look at any of that because I wasn't looking for that. I'm gonna go St. Francis. You're gonna go St. Francis? Okay. I thought I think it's Murray State still. Same.
SPEAKER_09:It is actually the least likely answer.
SPEAKER_06:Portland.
SPEAKER_09:Portland State had won the first game, and it wasn't even against Lincoln, it was against Cal Poly 40 to 35.
SPEAKER_06:And they'll be a front war.
SPEAKER_09:I watched some of this one just to see. Okay, is this Cal Poly being bad or Portland State kind of turned around? Yeah, they look like a pretty good. They they look like they probably got together a little bit now. Well, probably not. This may be their only win, but good win for Portland's state.
SPEAKER_01:Good for them.
SPEAKER_09:They thought it got through.
SPEAKER_01:Virgil, I I would like to talk about uh Tarleton State and uh and Abilene Christian, but first of all, on behalf of Abilene Christian, I just want to apologize for even wanting to bring that up because you know, like our our program is not about that. You know, I just want to go ahead and apologize for celebrating you know that result. So just okay.
SPEAKER_09:Is there something I am missing with this? Yeah, I saw I saw the apology and I was like, what are we apologizing for? I'm I must have missed something.
SPEAKER_01:So immediately after the game, uh Abilene Christian's uh social media outlet, I guess, posted something that was I don't remember the exact message, but apparently it was you know, I guess critical or or you know making fun of Tarleton State.
SPEAKER_09:Well, I saw I thought they said Tarleton's not a state. I saw that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, but you know, I guess it's just like the banter back and forth, and um I don't even think that a lot of people even thought a lot about it, but but then they issued that apology, and now people are saying that Abilene might have to like you know um issue an apot an apology for the apology because because because no one in Abilene is you know, everyone in Abilene is like there was nothing wrong with it, and even Charlton State's like honestly, if we'd won, we would have done it. So like a lot of people. I was just gonna say the same thing. So wait, is that S-A-W-F-T soft?
SPEAKER_09:No, I think that's uh SWAT. What?
SPEAKER_01:So let's talk about S-A-W-F T. SWAT. At least Virgil gets that.
SPEAKER_09:Uh uh yes, I I do get that. You are the realest guy in the room, Patrick.
SPEAKER_01:So wait a second, I'm doing I'm doing my little dance.
SPEAKER_09:So the Carleton State Appelaine Christian game, um, Appelaine Christian looks like they had him dead to rights. Because before the um fourth quarter, it was 28 to 10. Actually, I think it was 31 to 10, I think. No, wait, no, 28 to 10.
SPEAKER_02:28 to 10.
SPEAKER_09:Carlton State scores 18 unanswered to tie the game up. Adeline Christian goes down, kicks the field goal to win the game. Uh, definitely probably the best game uh of this week. The question that I have um, how do you gauge Carleton at this point? Because that's going into a game like that against a rival, a good ACU team. I know they're four and four, but that's not a bad team. Um losing by three. I don't expect them actually I don't pull up rankings. I don't know how far they went down, if they even went down.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like Tarleton State went into that game underestimating Adeline Christian. Which I mean they shouldn't have, but I feel like they went in kind of overlooking them based on ACU's record.
SPEAKER_06:Charlton State went down five spots.
SPEAKER_09:I think that's a little harsh. I mean, I guess being over Lee High, I mean they're they're they're under the the two other undefeated with Lee High and Tennessee Tech. I guess. But Monmouth went uh leaked them over oh I'm I'm looking at the uh stats perform FCS uh FCS top 25, not the coaches.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, okay. I was gonna say coaches are seventh.
SPEAKER_09:Seventh is a little harsh to me. I don't I think they're better than Monmouth, honestly. Um say being at nine surprised to me. I thought they dropped further.
SPEAKER_06:I can't I want to give my I've been I've been pushing this team this all this whole season, and then they dropped five spots.
SPEAKER_09:I was really disappointed in that game. I must have uh North Dakota.
SPEAKER_06:North Dakota.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I did there were a lot of upsets this weekend, or was it just me? Yeah, there were no there were some crazy games.
SPEAKER_09:There were a few upsets this weekend. Um usually some of the because one of the other things that we didn't talk about before, uh Lamar also lost, and they lost they lost to Incarnate Worth. That's where it always always ends up showing up in picks and never comes through, but they did beat Lamar, and that's Lamar's first loss in the conference. They are now seven and two. And I think that's their first FCS loss because yeah, they lost to North Texas for their first game.
SPEAKER_01:So technically that's their yeah, they're no longer is that is that North Texas with future Oklahoma State head coach Eric Morris? Here's open Texas, you what?
SPEAKER_09:Here's open.
SPEAKER_01:I'm just saying, if it ain't Sabin, it's gonna be Eric Morris.
SPEAKER_09:It's not gonna be Saban. It is well.
SPEAKER_10:What I can't figure out is how Presbyterian dropped another spot beating Valparaiso 43-14.
SPEAKER_09:I mean, remember how Patrick was saying that we could like form a soccer team and score against um Fiorentina?
SPEAKER_01:We can probably field a football team and score against listen, they they need to get Bryce true, they need to get Bryce Drew on the football field. That's the only chance that Valpo has.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, I mean the that there's bad FCS teams and then there's Valpo.
SPEAKER_01:Valpo. Yeah. By the way, I do want to give uh I do want to give Youngstown State some credit. Oh, absolutely. Giving North Dakota State such a good game. Um and they still dropped you called the Ed. I think you called that, didn't you? Or did you did you pick Youngstown to win? Or did you was that a spread game that we had?
SPEAKER_09:No, it's spread game.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because I think you were the one that said they're gonna keep it close. That they were gonna keep it close. And I did I'll be uh listen, I know I was wrong. I I made a whole list this weekend of all the ones that I missed, and I was like, golly, I couldn't find one that I got right.
SPEAKER_09:But um Ed was not the only person that's picked Youngstown, so I was like, Was it you?
SPEAKER_01:Was it you? Sorry, I didn't mean to get you.
SPEAKER_06:We've been we've adjusted uh Virgil and I we've been we've been on the Youngstown State in uh South Dakota.
SPEAKER_01:It wasn't that I'm like I'm not anti Youngstown State, it's just that I'm always like the by the bison always seem to you know like you know, like just steamroll teams. But but uh but I mean I just want to I wanted to I wanted to come on and just make sure I gave Youngstown State their flowers, even though they lost. They could have easily won that football game.
SPEAKER_09:Honestly, if they if they make it to uh playoffs, that's a team I would not want to face first round.
SPEAKER_01:No, I mean, because what do we know about the playoffs, right? And it's it doesn't matter what sport we're talking about, all you need to do is get in the game.
SPEAKER_06:When it comes to playoffs, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You what? Move it on. Oh, don't worry, Tottenham wouldn't make those playoffs either.
SPEAKER_06:Um, no, no, no. It's okay. They may they will make the playoffs.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't say Chelsea would either, I'm just saying uh Tottenham wouldn't.
SPEAKER_09:Um uh other upsets to talk about Idaho goes into the Sky Dome at uh Northern Arizona and beats them 35-32 in overtime.
SPEAKER_01:Uh the Vandals are like up and down this season.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, they I had high hopes for them. They were gonna be one of my surprise teams, and I am definitely surprised by how bad they've kind of been playing. Uh we already talked about North Dakota losing to South Dakota, which was kind of a surprise to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, another one that kind of surprised me was the San Diego Dayton game.
SPEAKER_09:I'm not I I understand that one. I'm not I'm not as surprised than that because those two tend to be those two before Presbyterian, those two tend to be your top in the pioneer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but like San Diego was San Diego had been struggling a little bit this season, and Dayton, Dayton was looking pretty good.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah. So definitely I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I don't I don't claim to know the history of like how they how they how they finish in the pioneer league. I'm going based off of this season. Just like I let you and Ed like they let us talk about soccer. I let you and Ed talk about it. Um because I don't know historically how good they are, like I know more about Dayton from a basketball perspective.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, there will always be a bad think of them as a basketball school. Yeah, don't have that one good season, but then they'll go back down to normal and then the call me Donnie.
SPEAKER_01:I've got a Dayton hat. That's you know, and the most I know about Dayton is that Virgil's Dayton someone I can't 128.
SPEAKER_09:But anyway, um you said to stink that in there, didn't you?
SPEAKER_00:He sure did, didn't he?
SPEAKER_09:Uh but you know, with FCS, I may have missed my HBCU pick by three points. Alabama state 138, 31 to 28.
SPEAKER_01:I don't regret that pick though.
SPEAKER_09:I don't either.
SPEAKER_01:I listen, I'm team listen, I said I was gonna go down with the ship, and I'm a Virgil, a Virgil Brooks fanboy.
SPEAKER_00:So Donnie and I were like, no, we're not going down with that ship.
SPEAKER_01:No, I said I said, is it pre-review or is it is it is it AM? Is it preview a m?
SPEAKER_09:Purview AM.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Listen, preview could have won that game. Like they were they were in it to the end.
SPEAKER_06:Just just like Clemson could have won that game, but they didn't, okay.
SPEAKER_04:During the power bike, they were in it till the end.
SPEAKER_06:Listen, I'm gonna need for you to calm down. They were in it till the end.
SPEAKER_09:But we have we have that.
SPEAKER_01:No, you know what? Dabo is gonna be like Graham Potter saying the boys gave everything. I can see Dabbo saying that the boys gave everything.
SPEAKER_09:Alabama AM lost to Grambling, so uh the one that hurt me.
SPEAKER_01:But folks, you've made me into a you've made me you've turned me into an Alabama AM fan, by the way.
SPEAKER_09:I am so sorry.
SPEAKER_01:But folks, I'm used to heartbreak, okay? We've already been over that.
SPEAKER_09:But folks, the cowards lost.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, I was getting ready to say the cowards dropped six, and you got to it.
SPEAKER_09:Lost Idaho State.
SPEAKER_10:Wait, they actually played it, they actually played a game?
SPEAKER_09:They played a game, they could not get their weather machine working in time, and Idaho State.
SPEAKER_01:Was that game in Davis? Was that game in Davis?
SPEAKER_09:Oh, nice lost at home by two.
SPEAKER_01:By the way, um, not not to go into this, but you know, not only can Davis not play games, they also can't hold an independent professional baseball team. Awkward. You know, you you you you you know what I'm talking about, right?
SPEAKER_09:Uh oh, hold on. Dying, do we have breaking news?
SPEAKER_10:Oh, geez. What a sh I don't know how far where that pass was like a 40-yard was that CD? Yeah, he dumped it off to him. CD kind of hovered on the sideline and then he's out of bounds. Dak was scrambling, so he got down to the 20s. Yeah, he's out of bounds. I I need I need him to score less than two points.
SPEAKER_09:Cool razor then. My goodness.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, this is good. This is becoming a good game. Listen, I'm invested in this game. Why would you be invested in this game? Because I want Donnie to win.
SPEAKER_06:Man, who cares?
SPEAKER_10:So we had a lady stop by, she was riding around the campground on her little electric scooter with her dog. She saw she saw us sitting out there watching TV, and she said, Oh, you watching the game tonight? That's a Monday night game. She's like, Yeah, she's like, You pulling for the cowboys? I was like, I wouldn't go that far. I'm like, I need you to come the hell down.
SPEAKER_01:So I was coming back from New Jersey, and then there was this we're you know, we're in Philly, right? Returning a rental car. This guy comes out and he's from Atlanta, but he's wearing a he's wearing a cowboys jacket. So I had to listen while we're waiting to get the shuttle over to the airport. I haven't hear all about the cowboys, and I just wanted to say, you know, they suck, right?
SPEAKER_06:So the fact that they're losing the the the Cardinals put up 27 points on the Cowboys surprises me this much. I've been trying to tell you the story.
SPEAKER_01:Hasn't that been the story of this NFL season that like their defense has been bad all year?
SPEAKER_06:Wait, hold on a second. Time out, time out because the owner said that this is a much better defense right now, that they're gonna be able to they need to stop the run, then it can't stop shit.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Oh, they they just they just downgraded uh C D Lambs and now uh oh never mind. Never mind.
SPEAKER_03:He's playing.
SPEAKER_01:Oh I'm watching the live, I'm watching the live point thing, and then I saw that he just got another catch on my ooh.
SPEAKER_09:Never mind. Yep, is there's it is it over, Donnie?
SPEAKER_10:Not quite 89.58 to 90.12.
SPEAKER_01:If he decides to back to pack up his bags now and say I'm done for the night, then Donnie would win.
SPEAKER_09:But you need some you need some uh throws at George Pickham is what you need.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah. Well, I need somebody to take CD out right now. Because I want to hear Eric complain tomorrow night.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, he went do not cons do not condone injuries.
SPEAKER_06:We don't condone injuries like the coach.
SPEAKER_10:I need the coach to take him out of the game.
SPEAKER_01:That's all unless is uh Aaron Rodgers, at which point it is completely I want to hear Eric um go on and say, uh terrible luck because Tucker Kraft got hurt and I have nobody, and then you know then he and he keeps winning. I'm like, I don't want to hear it.
SPEAKER_10:I don't need a career injury, I just need a 24-hour injury. You know who has a year injury though?
SPEAKER_06:Who uh Tucker Kraft?
SPEAKER_01:Jaden Daniels. Oh yeah, that was nasty. Uh and listen, that my heart breaks for Jaden. You know how much I love Jaden Daniels. He reminds you, he reminds me of actual good times at LSU.
SPEAKER_10:Washington lost three guys that might be out the rest of the year last night.
SPEAKER_01:Is McLaurin is McLaurin out for the year?
SPEAKER_10:Uh I don't know if he's out for the year.
SPEAKER_01:McLaurin got his money and said I ain't gonna play this year.
SPEAKER_10:But they lost a couple other guys last night, too, for the rest of the year.
SPEAKER_09:Well, well, they they already lost Eckler for the entire let's go over some of the FCS games for next week. Now, believe it or not, I have already made my list of games.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not surprised by that. You have time you have time, usually you got time yeah. I said you've got time because you got time, you know. Donnie's too busy with vacationing and and staying in palatial campgrounds and stuff, but but you have time.
SPEAKER_10:But you got time, you got time, you got time.
SPEAKER_01:You guys got a job or anything, so you know you're just laying around sick.
SPEAKER_10:Is that what I'm supposed to say?
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's what you say. Not what you're supposed to, that's what you say.
SPEAKER_09:That's what it was last week.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't say any of this, Virgil.
SPEAKER_09:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he just suggested it strongly.
SPEAKER_09:So the first game I actually want to look at is um one that involves our friend Phil. And one that I was kind of debating going to, but I don't know if it'll happen considering uh budget constraints currently, right now, and that is Furman at Chattanooga.
SPEAKER_00:Ooh, I saw that now.
SPEAKER_09:Chattanooga definitely has a lot of good players, but they've not really been the best this year. They're only four and five. I would say a disappointing season for them. But they have a chance, and they did lose to Western Carolina last week, but have a chance to do a rebound on the game. That could be a fun one to keep track of.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. If you if you choose to go, let me know.
SPEAKER_09:Okay, I'll I'll give you a heads up. I don't think I've got anything pressing this week on what I know of.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't know that I can go either. I was just like, I thought that was pretty cool though.
SPEAKER_10:That's a noon game, so y'all can get there and back in a day.
SPEAKER_09:And our um track of keeping track of our winless teams, Saint Francis is at home against Mercyhurst. Could this be the week? St. Francis wins a game. Yes. Oof. Differing opinions. I like it.
SPEAKER_01:Um listen, I'm gonna go down, I'm gonna go down with this train.
SPEAKER_09:So we are not we are not gonna pick this game. Um, this next game we're gonna talk about, but I do have a question in this. Citadel is playing at Ole Miss, so we're finally getting to the SEC needing their cupcake games.
SPEAKER_10:Their wins, yeah. I was just gonna say the late the late season cupcakes. Yeah, there it is. The holiday cupcakes, I like to call them.
SPEAKER_09:Historically, Citadel has found a way. Citadel is always one of my favorite FCS teams because they led Alabama for like the first quarter, I think even at half. And I remember people freaking the fuck out about that.
SPEAKER_06:It's also isn't it wonderful?
SPEAKER_09:It's always wonderful to see. So will the Citadel lead Ole Miss at any point in this game?
SPEAKER_01:I think if they do, it's gonna be because they get because they get possession first, and then they uh and and they get a field goal or touchdown in the first possession.
SPEAKER_10:You watch I I don't want to I don't want to say no, I doubt it. I was gonna say like maybe a field goal if they have if they receive the kickoff, if if old miss defers, potentially they could get a field goal. I don't even think they get a touchdown. If they don't get a field goal to on the first drive of the game, no, I don't think they will.
SPEAKER_09:Oh uh Donnie, by the way, I have uh texted Jacoby Bursett because you know we're on a first name basis, uh, to uh run out the rest of the clock. So just trying to do the best for you.
SPEAKER_01:Man, I swear that would be just that that would be amazing if Arizona went on a 14 and a half minute drive. Absolutely. And then Dallas gets it back only for uh and Dallas gets it back only for uh Dak to you know scamper for for a few yards.
SPEAKER_10:At least double team CD and make him go to Pickens.
SPEAKER_09:Uh one of some of the other games I'll talk about. This is one we will be picking, and since it's not here, I won't repeat this one. Villanova at Townsend.
SPEAKER_04:Ooh.
SPEAKER_09:Townsend has kind of a um I'm sorry. Townsend is sitting at a four and five record. Kind of, you know, not impressive, but they're not a bad team. They'll find a way to score your, they'll find a way to score points. Villanova's still hanging around at 5-1, leading the CAA. Uh possible playoff berth if they win the course. So one to keep a try, one to keep an eye on because they're playing at Johnny Unidas Stadium at Towson. That could be an interesting one.
SPEAKER_01:Man, love Johnny Unidas.
SPEAKER_09:Uh Presbyterian at Davidson, really nothing to report there.
SPEAKER_01:The only question is how much will they win by? Uh, pretty much. Presbyterian looked good last weekend, too. I thought about Donnie because I know that's like Donnie's 48th team or whatever it is now. Donnie's got teams like Eric's got Instagram accounts.
SPEAKER_09:That's a good one. I'll give you that. That's a good one. That's a good one. Murray. State has a chance.
SPEAKER_01:But the thing is, Eric may still may have more Instagram accounts than UF teams. True story.
SPEAKER_09:Murray State has a chance to win their first game.
SPEAKER_01:They are on the road at Northern Iowa, who is sitting 2-7 and 0-5 and conference along with I still think Murray State's best chance this season was Georgia State.
SPEAKER_09:That is so fast. I can totally see that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but I'm saying, like, that was like it's Georgia State's only win this season again is against Murray State.
SPEAKER_09:So are they is that oh man, I'm I'm depressed hearing that.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's what it was.
SPEAKER_09:Let me see. Well, you look that up. Uh North Dakota State at North Dakota. We will be picking that up.
SPEAKER_01:That would have that would have been a lot more attractive if um North Dakota won. No, if North Dakota had won this past weekend. Yeah. So yeah, so um yeah, so so it was back on September 13th that uh Georgia State's only win was against uh was against Murray State. Wow. I think I think Del McGee, I think Del McGee may not last much longer.
SPEAKER_09:No, it uh I don't I don't think so, especially if that's the case. Yeah, um then Illinois, Youngstown State will probably be another one we'll be looking at for sure. But the game that I have circled, I have circled a big game, one that I'm looking forward to. Uh what I'm also nervous about. Mercer on the road against Western Carolina.
SPEAKER_10:Ooh, that's gonna be a good game.
SPEAKER_09:Western Carolina has definitely turned around from actually getting their play back from suspension. So uh that is one I may I may put that one on the full screen, honestly.
SPEAKER_01:Well, Western at least you know Western Carolina will actually play the game.
SPEAKER_09:Yes, this is true. I don't understand.
SPEAKER_01:Well, at least you don't have to worry about it getting canceled. No, no, I do not. I mean UC Davis, yeah, that's a different story, but uh Prairie View AM against Alabama AM.
SPEAKER_09:That is in Huntsville. I may try to go to that one.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh. That's a good matchup, but uh I'm I'm presuming Prairie View AM is uh is a is a comfortable favorite in that one.
SPEAKER_09:And they probably will be. I haven't seen the line for that one yet. South Dakota State. Now, if we're talking about games that look different all of a sudden compared to last week, South Dakota stayed at South Dakota. Now, South Dakota just broke into the top 25, so it's not like they're gonna be up. This is not a top 15 team of any means.
SPEAKER_01:But is is is South Dakota is South Dakota in Pier?
SPEAKER_09:Uh South Dakota's in Vermilion.
SPEAKER_01:It's in Vermilion, okay. Is South Dakota State in Pier, or am I state's in Brookings? Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_09:I don't know. I I I guess Pier doesn't have us have a D1 school, maybe.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I always underestimate when it when a when a capital city, I always feel like they're gonna have one of the big institutions, and then they never do. So I'm just like, god gone it. I just it's not hard to do, but I make myself look dumb. So nah, no worries.
SPEAKER_10:Well, here's one for you guys for territorial bragging rights West Georgia versus North Alabama, which is kind of funny because is that at North Alabama?
SPEAKER_09:That is in Florence, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, wait, that's in Florence, yes. Oh, I like it.
SPEAKER_09:Which is funny considering I like it. North Alabama is also more western Alabama than anything else.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I was I was just about to say, so in the region, when I worked for Dick Sporting Goods, uh one of the stores that we had in our region was uh was Florence, Alabama.
SPEAKER_09:Florence has really come up um in the past. Yeah, it's probably deck and it's it's it's like a fun place to go to. And also North Alabama, uh, one of the few schools that have live mascots. Now they don't have them on the field, but they do have two lions, so you can actually go to their enclosure on campus.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. Well, don't worry. Don um if Donnie goes to a game, he'll end up with a picture with them. Very true.
SPEAKER_09:I would recommend, I mean, I'd recommend doing that once because like how often will you see lions in Alabama?
SPEAKER_01:That's true.
SPEAKER_09:That's not at a zoo.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was gonna say, unless it's like the Barnum and Bailey show or whatever it is.
SPEAKER_09:Yes, but this is a lot more ethical.
SPEAKER_01:Good point.
unknown:Good point.
SPEAKER_09:Um, a big battle in the Southland Conference, which we don't really highlight much because um a lot of their Southland Conference is one of those conferences where it's just one, maybe two good teams. And both those good teams are playing against each other this week. We have Southeastern Louisiana going to Lamar.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's gonna be a good game.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, that's gonna be one. I don't know if we're gonna pick that one because we're kind of running. I gotta see how many games we've got to add. I may have that. We'll see.
SPEAKER_01:What can what conference is that toothpaste team in?
SPEAKER_09:Colgate?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:Colgate is in the I have to remember if it's Patriot or not.
SPEAKER_01:No, yeah, and by the way, no disrespect to Colgate. It's just that it's the way I remember them. Is Toothpaste.
SPEAKER_09:No, I guess they're they're in the Patriot.
SPEAKER_01:Are they in the Patriot? Okay. Colgate's got a pretty good team, don't they?
SPEAKER_09:Um four and five, two and two in Patriot.
SPEAKER_01:We're not uh okay. Well, forgive my ignorance. I'm still learning, still learning. I feel I'm more comfortable with the top 25. I'm not I'm not good throughout every conference yet. Um Donnie's trying to teach me, but I'm but I'm I'm a I'm a work in progress here.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, Colgate is um, I know Colgate more for basketball than football.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say, like, so they're like Dayton in that way, more than basketball school.
SPEAKER_09:I would I would say so. Because I know they're they've had more recent success in basketball. So really you can say the same for a few of the Patriot League teams like Buck Mill and Lehigh in Richmond.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_09:The spiders, spiders, which kind of see kind of sad to see how they are, but spiders are usually pretty good too. But they're setting up two and three, five and four. Two and three five and five and four for the year.
SPEAKER_10:Wow, there's an inordinate amount of three and six teams in FCS. There's a lot of three and six. I don't know why that net that record stands out, but there is a lot.
SPEAKER_09:Sorry, Donnie. I do not have any Lincoln.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, uh, I think their season's done. They've they've collected their checks and they're hunting down until next season.
SPEAKER_09:They collected their checks and it's time to launder that money.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Well, I was gonna say, like, uh I I really that's one of my biggest letdowns of the season when I thought that Lincoln not only scored points, but they actually got a touchdown plus a field goal. And then and and then it had to be retracted and was never rewritten. And I'm like, so in my mind, in some in some imaginary dreamland that I was in, Lincoln Lincoln of California ended up with 10 points this whole season.
SPEAKER_10:That was almost as funny for me as when Rhonda's aunt thought she hit the scratch off for$250,000 one Christmas. And then well, I didn't scratch off the right numbers or all of the numbers.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I I that I know how she feels in a sense because I I was even read I was even looking at your graphic with you where you would circle clearly that there was a discrepancy, but somehow I didn't catch that discrepancy. And I was sitting there celebrating, I was I was at the store and I was sitting there celebrating over something that didn't happen. Listen, listen, it's the little things, okay? It is, it's the little things.
SPEAKER_09:I'm sorry that the associated press did that to you. They did you, Dardy.
SPEAKER_01:They did, and I you know, I wanted to write them to be quite honest.
SPEAKER_10:I'll say this if the day comes that uh Lincoln does score some points, we will have a party.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, I'm gonna be like the Dodgers when they got on base.
SPEAKER_09:Well, like when Donnie sent me that, I had to like triple like verify because like, okay, which one is the right score? Yeah, did ESPN get this wrong? Because they didn't have live stats for this, they just kind of had updates. So, like, was it ESPN that was wrong? Like, I checked, I went to Missouri Valley State Football Twitter, they didn't have anything on this.
SPEAKER_01:But but it's it but it but it's a perfect I started looking at the story, and then this is where I kind of started really understanding, thanks to Donnie's investigative work, how many people just copy stories and just put it on their website. I mean, and I I knew that happened because of the AP Newswire and other things like that, but that was just a good example of people just grab everyone grabbing the wrong story and not verifying it. Yeah, so it's like uh here, I'm gonna throw it on a website because it it was on like the conference website, it was everywhere. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:That I guess who's gonna care about Mississippi Valley State versus Lincoln? Who's gonna care about that score?
SPEAKER_01:We are uh we will because we're the break-even sports talk show, and we were the ones that had the watch on it.
SPEAKER_05:We're the only ones that will.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, and you know, like we're the ones that worry about playoffs, playoffs in the English Premier League. I mean, we we worry about the cr about the important stuff.
SPEAKER_05:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, calm the hell down.
SPEAKER_00:Calm the hell down.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, with your delay, you need to you need to go somewhere with your delayed self, okay? Because you're you're talking like one of the one of those uh martial arts movies. Come on, calm the heck down.
SPEAKER_09:I thought maybe he was doing like uh ventilical as a Mac or something.
SPEAKER_01:I was I did too, because I was because I I thought it was a Bruce Lee movie where he's going.
SPEAKER_10:Well, Patrick, if you had watched this morning's uh breakfast takes, you would have seen that he was Mac's headroom for about 45 seconds as well.
SPEAKER_06:Bro, listen.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, I was ready to drop a beat on that, but then it's like I know.
SPEAKER_10:I was like, man, this this is going on and on.
SPEAKER_09:But the but the more I heard it, it sounds like you were a dog trying to throw up.
SPEAKER_06:So, Virgil, since you did watch it and you watched the part that I asked you guys to watch, and without saying it, because we'll cover it tomorrow, because Donnie came up with some crazy kakamami, you know, uh which I'm not against, by the way, because it benefits me. Uh were you caught off guard, or you know, no, no, what no, no.
SPEAKER_09:I'm not what what what I was thinking he was going to say? It checks what I thought he was going to say was going to be more about their postseason future.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, there is no there's no post future postseason future for that guy.
SPEAKER_09:Well, so I'm saying that that's where the hot tags from. But when I heard him, when I heard him talk and I heard that name, I'm like, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It checks.
SPEAKER_09:But I did offer him another player, and I didn't have to say who it was, and he found out completely, and he knew completely who I was gonna say.
SPEAKER_10:You saw it too. Patrick. You what he didn't watch it, but we did discuss it before you got out. Yeah, we discussed it.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, yeah, and I and and honestly, I thought his alternative might be an active starting quarterback for another uh for another team that he you know supports.
SPEAKER_06:Um okay, all right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he might want to he might want to switch expansion teams. I don't know, you know, since they came into the league at the same time. I mean, he you know, I mean, you know, he uh listen, there is a there there is a fighting team that uh that that he supposedly doesn't support anymore.
SPEAKER_06:Donnie, Donnie, if it happens, you would welcome it with open arms. As a matter of fact, you would drive the moving truck from Jacksonville all the way to Charlotte. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I'll take that any day.
SPEAKER_06:I know you would.
SPEAKER_09:I must be the only person that thinks that's a terrible move.
SPEAKER_06:I would think it's a horrible move.
SPEAKER_01:Wait a second, you think you're the only person? You obviously haven't met me.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, that's why you're suggesting it.
SPEAKER_01:That's why I'm suggesting it, yes.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01:But I'm saying, well, I what I was I was suggesting it because I could see that as something that Donnie would also suggest, thinking this is a brilliant move. And while you're at it, bring and while you're at it, bring another running back to the team as well, because he'll be great for us too. And we need we can have three running backs.
SPEAKER_06:Is Elliott still out there? I mean, is he still a free agent or is he with the cowboys? Who's that? Elliot. You might as well give him an Ohio State get running back, you know, just to complete the Ezekiel Ezekiel Elliott? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I was just gonna say, you know, like he's gonna want he's gonna want Etienne in there, right? Travis Etienne? True. Well, we've got his brother, so I was just gonna say you want to bring bring the ETN brothers together, and you're gonna have a four-headed monster. Um, you know, Chuba Hubbard, go pokes.
SPEAKER_10:Um unfortunately, the Panthers don't like Clemson players. I mean, they they just don't. I mean, they brought Hunter Hunter back and then they they cut him, brought him back, and then they didn't play him. Like, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_01:Well, don't worry, you guys will draft uh K Klubnick or something like that, and then you know. Nah, he's not playing pro football. He's not playing AFL football. Yeah, shoot. He he's gonna be right next to uh to uh to Nussmeyer, you know, and guys that should have been something, but then they really weren't.
SPEAKER_10:Those those are the kind of guys that'll be in the UFL.
SPEAKER_01:Well yeah, or they'll be like the the backup, they'll be the practice squad quarterback, like you know, or they'll be in the league at something completely different.
SPEAKER_00:Jesus, where the hell are you throwing this ball to? Jesus. As long as you're not throwing it to CD Lamb, I'm good with it. Throw it anywhere else. Unreal.
SPEAKER_10:No, they finish that drive. It's uh yeah, so it's gonna be a little while before they get the ball back again, hopefully.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, because Jacoby Brissett's just gonna run the ball now and you know, let's go.
SPEAKER_08:Okay, I'll take that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was gonna say, is Jane is James Conner back yet? No.
SPEAKER_08:No, no.
SPEAKER_01:Who who is it now? Carter? Is it Carter? Um Michael Carter.
SPEAKER_07:Carter right now, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Michael Carter, because I know it's not the other guy, the the one that dropped the the one that dropped the uh you know the potential touchdown.
SPEAKER_09:Well, he's he's had a few plays too.
SPEAKER_01:When you better learn how to slide when when that um uh I can't even call him a head coach, but when Jonathan Gannon lit into him for no flipping reason.
SPEAKER_06:Well, warranted. Um it was warranted.
SPEAKER_01:Not when you're Jonathan Gannon. Win something before you start going off on a player like that. They would have won that game. Huh?
SPEAKER_06:They would have won that game with that touchdown.
SPEAKER_01:Now Jonathan Gannon is coached, they wouldn't have.
SPEAKER_06:That's not the but that wasn't on Jonathan Gannon. That was all on the running. Everything's on Jonathan Gannon.
SPEAKER_01:Everything's on Jonathan Gannon.
SPEAKER_09:I'm not gonna find him on that.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, allow my Jonathan Gannon agenda, okay?
SPEAKER_09:Let the Jonathan Gannon hate throw uh go uh through hell.
SPEAKER_01:He's this he's this season's Brandon Staley. We all know that. In my eyes.
SPEAKER_06:By the way, there is there is a good chance that Kyle Murray does get traded by the end of the season.
SPEAKER_01:To where where does he go?
SPEAKER_06:Don't matter, bum fuck anywhere.
SPEAKER_09:Oh, I've already given my answer.
SPEAKER_06:Did you?
SPEAKER_09:Oh I get my answer already. And I'm kind of like half joking, half not with that.
SPEAKER_01:How did how did I miss what your answer was? Did you put it in the chat? I didn't like in our in in our offline chat?
SPEAKER_08:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, I need to go back and look at that. Was that today?
SPEAKER_08:That was today.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:No, that's not a bad that's a bad place.
SPEAKER_09:I don't think it's a bad place at all.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's a fantastic place. Listen, that gets me to what? Uh how many quarterbacks would that get me to do that?
SPEAKER_06:That's a horrible, that's a horrible place.
SPEAKER_01:Virgin, how many how many quarterbacks would that get me?
SPEAKER_09:42? 48. I don't know. I lost track. 42?
SPEAKER_01:Is it 42?
SPEAKER_09:But I mean, like with the way that Brissett's playing.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, if Gabriel was 41. Yeah, I was gonna say, like, well, I'm hoping to have 42 by the end of the season because I want I want Shador's back to get better. Um so he can play. Um, I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind doing uh like uh um you know uh a remontada of Bailey Zappi either before the season ends. That'd be nice. But you know, Stefansky did give up play calling duties to Tommy Rees today, so there's that for the second straight season. Uh didn't because he gave it up to another former corner um Browns quarterback Ken Dorsey last season.
SPEAKER_09:If I were you, I'd be more worried about Njoku being traded to Green Bay because now they need up tight end.
SPEAKER_06:True. Well from all the reports I'm hearing is that they're uh they're more buyers than sellers.
SPEAKER_00:Did uh that, I believe.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I was gonna say, don't put anyone on the trading block because the Eagles will just trade for them.
SPEAKER_06:True story.
SPEAKER_01:What do you think the Browns do, in all seriousness, Ed? What do you think that they do at the trade deadline?
SPEAKER_06:They need a wide receiver, they need a wide receiver, they need a wide receiver. Anyone with a working hamstring, they need a one with the working hands.
SPEAKER_00:True story.
SPEAKER_09:Are there any wide receivers on the Jerry Judy?
SPEAKER_06:Jerry Judy needs to go away for the he needs to go to the IFL. Jerry Judy.
SPEAKER_01:Um by the way, where is Cedric Tillman? Is he still hurt? That that kid's talented, but he can't stay on the field. No. Oh Donnie. Isn't there a certain wide receiver that's still a free agent? That has some Browns experience on the practice squad? Uh Kadarius Tony.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, that's a blast from the past. Hadn't heard that name in a while.
SPEAKER_01:I know, but I mean for a good reason. No, I'm saying, but man, he he could give a little jolt to that Browns off.
SPEAKER_06:No, he was he was shit in Kansas City, he was shit in Cleveland, he was shit everywhere he went.
SPEAKER_01:Wasn't he on your practice squad or was that the Panthers? No, it was the Browns, wasn't it? I think it was the Browns.
SPEAKER_10:By the way, Patrick, Ed's just collecting receipts to throw punch you next time he sees you in person, so you might want to move on.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, you're gonna throw punch me the next time you see me in person, too.
SPEAKER_10:So no, I would never do such as that. Who was gonna throw a punch?
SPEAKER_01:I'm trying to see who the yeah, he did play for the Cleveland Browns. He did Kadarius Tony.
SPEAKER_06:I already I already told you that.
SPEAKER_01:I know, but I was like, I was trying to remember if he played in an actual game or if it was like he played in an actual game, he didn't do shit.
SPEAKER_06:God, that makes me so happy.
SPEAKER_09:We are done with FCS talk. Uh, if you guys have any hockey or f or F1 you want to talk about, nothing.
SPEAKER_01:Um may I just say I'm so proud of the way the Ducks have started the season. I mean, Rock Bottom is the only place that we had to start from. So um, we beat the Panthers in in a shootout, which I never thought would happen. Donnie, you have something probably far more interesting to talk about.
SPEAKER_10:I was just warned to be nice to you, or I'd have heard an answer to.
SPEAKER_04:So we know who?
SPEAKER_00:The the top one?
SPEAKER_10:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you, Mrs.
SPEAKER_01:Mayor. He says thank you. He's just mean to me, and then you know, Ed doesn't like me either. You know, they they've all they've all started buying into uh Eric Prophet's propaganda.
SPEAKER_09:Propaganda is what I call it.
SPEAKER_01:Propaganda, there you go. Good one. There was a good one, Virgil.
SPEAKER_10:Golf clout.
SPEAKER_01:Um, Mrs. Mayer, Donnie's insulting me again.
SPEAKER_10:She can't hear you. I'm not pre-laying that.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, don't worry, I'll text it to her. I'm not insulting you. I was gonna be able to do that. No, you just said you just said, Virgil, that's an actual good one. I know what that's referencing. I know what that's referencing. Wow. Yeah. Listen.
SPEAKER_09:Have you tried having good ones, Patter?
SPEAKER_01:What?
SPEAKER_09:Have you tried having good ones, Patter?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I have them quite often.
SPEAKER_10:See?
SPEAKER_01:Listen, Virgil, Virgil gets a free shot because I'm a I'm a Virgil Brooks fanboy.
SPEAKER_10:So you know, are you two wearing the same color, hoodie?
SPEAKER_01:What? Kind of this is sea green. C foam green.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah, I don't know. This is probably kind of a sea foam green. It's uh is that a gray? No, it's green. It's it's green. Is it green?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_10:Well, I'm not wearing an Octoberfest, I'm wearing it at Land United, so yeah, it's not quite as as greenish as yours, it's a little more muted. This is the this is the city in the forest hoodie.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, I think it's the lighting is what's making it making it look like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_09:All right, so there's nothing else to talk about. I think we've hit all the subjects we've been meaning to hit today.
SPEAKER_10:Uh, Polly showed back up.
SPEAKER_09:My predators are still bad. That's all I have to say about hockey.
SPEAKER_06:My my uh hurricans are not bad. They're they're they're okay. What are you talking about? They're beating everybody.
SPEAKER_10:Did you watch this in Elskid I sent you guys about the preds? I have that was hilarious. Uh I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. Yeah, I shouldn't watch that. That was hilarious.
SPEAKER_01:I watched the one on Tom Moore that you sent.
SPEAKER_10:Oh, yeah, that was a good one, too. That was very good.
SPEAKER_06:In my defense, you did send like 16 of them. I'm on vacation. We yeah, you are. The rest of us are not.
SPEAKER_01:You said you do that even when you're not on vacation.
SPEAKER_09:Yeah, usually when I'm on vacation, I don't send a bunch of stuff.
SPEAKER_06:Like when he's on vacation, he doesn't talk to anybody.
SPEAKER_10:Hey, I I can't help but that you know stuff's just popping all day long.
SPEAKER_03:If you say so. If you say so.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, all right. Well, yeah, but but but yeah, I just did want to say about hockey that I'm really proud of the Anaheim Ducks because they also beat the Devils yesterday, who were at the top of the Metropolitan Division.
SPEAKER_06:So for now, listen, uh well, I said there you you know who their head coach is, right? Who for the New Jersey Devils. He used to coach the terror the Toronto Maple Leaves. Oh yeah. He's very good at the regular season, but always finds a way to choke in the playoffs. So do the Devils.
SPEAKER_01:So do the Devils. Exactly. So the matchmade in heaven. And and can I just say how uh how very pleased I am about the New York Rangers and their start to the season? I I have enjoyed that. And listen, I'm just not used to the Ducks winning anything, okay?
SPEAKER_06:Also, uh it needs to be said there's a certain player or players for this the Panthers that are dirty. Uh I I know who you know you who I'm talking about, Donnie. I know who you think you're talking about. No, no, no, no. You know who I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_01:No, but in all seriousness, there is a player on the Panthers um that I want to shout out, you know, give a shout-out to. Um Donnie, I'm gonna need you to help me out with the name, but there was a player, um, one of your players that took a leave of absence from the team to go coach his um oh that's the one Ed's talking about. Well uh Marshan.
SPEAKER_00:Fuck him.
SPEAKER_01:Well fuck him. Well, no, in all seriousness, like when Brad Marshan like took a leave of absence to go like coach his coach a friend of his that he lost to go coach his daughter. Is it was his daughter's daughter, yeah.
SPEAKER_10:It was his daughter's team, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so like to take a leave of absence from his job to go and do that. I he may be a good person, but as a hockey player, I fuck him. Well, listen, uh I just thought that was classy to do outside of hockey. Um, a character thing. I thought that was a I thought that was a really classy thing to do when when with the sudden loss of a friend to go and do that and know to have your priorities in order. So I was I was really impressed by that.
SPEAKER_06:He needs to go ahead and coach for the rest of the year. Fuck him.
SPEAKER_10:What a night and day dichotomy that that right.
SPEAKER_09:It's almost like you have to doing a bit almost.
SPEAKER_01:It's like it's like uh it's like the shoulder. Yeah, mine was I meant that coming from a good place, so yeah.
SPEAKER_06:I didn't.
SPEAKER_00:I mine is like coming from a good place.
SPEAKER_01:I I I couldn't tell.
SPEAKER_10:I couldn't I don't know if Ed's talking about any other players, but I know that's the one that he doesn't like because he Marshall so so I just want to make uh a suggestion for the 2026 dad hate tournament.
SPEAKER_01:Does Brad Marshan make that make that field? So I'm okay with it. So Virgil, since you Virgil, since you have nothing but time, do you want to go ahead and add that to the 2026?
SPEAKER_09:Uh we may put him on the bubble. May have to put him on the bubble.
SPEAKER_01:Well, like I said, I know you've got time, so you can just handle it however you and considering that we now have and I have time too, so I can help with that.
SPEAKER_09:You know, the fact that we have bubble teams now just kind of shows how out of hand this tournament has gotten.
SPEAKER_01:Or how the hate has just continued to spread.
SPEAKER_09:The hate has continued to spread, yes.
SPEAKER_10:Real quick, Polly, I don't think Judge wins the MVP. He he he really shouldn't. I think it's gotta be uh Raleigh.
unknown:Oh Donnie.
SPEAKER_10:Polly, he does.
SPEAKER_09:Donnie, Donnie, Donnie. Or went out, or lace is out.
SPEAKER_01:Man, I didn't mean to make Ed that mad. I mean, he didn't have to start, you know, going around on his uh Well, is he is he brewing right now? Is like is he steaming? Oh man, he just went on, he got so mad he decided to go on something else.
SPEAKER_10:I only have myself to blame, Virgil. I only have myself to blame. Played the wrong quarterback, overthought it.
SPEAKER_06:Who was your original quarterback?
SPEAKER_10:I took out Josh Allen for Jordan Love because I thought Jordan Love might have a better chance of scoring more points against the Panthers than Josh Allen would against the Chiefs.
SPEAKER_06:Do you realize what uh Josh Allen's record is during the season against the Chiefs?
SPEAKER_10:I know it normally is. I overthought it, is what I said. I thought this is gonna be that time that Jordan Love's gonna pour on some points against the Panthers as anemic as they've been at times, and it backfired on me.
SPEAKER_09:So yeah, disappointment. Well, on that note, uh this will be uh good conclusion for tonight's show. Uh join us tomorrow as we go into baseball, NFL. Well, there's gonna be a lot of hot takes.
SPEAKER_10:World series recap, yeah, NFL, World Series, NFL games, college games.
SPEAKER_09:We may have to. But also, but also for tomorrow, the return of an institution is coming back. Just be ready.
SPEAKER_01:That's pa so for Polly and for Ed's burner and uh Big Chew Papi, uh that's worth tuning in tomorrow night alone for what what Virgil is hinting at. Um so stay tuned.
SPEAKER_09:All right, take it easy, guys.
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