From Premier League Drama To FCS Chaos: A Week Of Upsets, VAR Debates, And Blizzard Soccer

We jump from a blizzard bicycle kick in the Canadian Premier League to Premier League plot twists, break down VAR’s chaos and card rules, and map a MEAC race that might come down to a coin toss. FCS upsets, Maction midweek, NHL surprises, and vertical streaming tests round it out.

• Premier League swings with Tottenham’s draw, Arsenal dropping points, Chelsea’s youth, Newcastle’s away woes
• VAR speed vs precision, penalties vs offsides, simulation and card suspensions
• Canadian Premier League final in the snow and a stunning bicycle kick
• Bundesliga and La Liga notes, Bayern’s late quality, Sunderland’s grit
• FCS upsets, Youngstown State rally, North Dakota’s potential
• MEAC tiebreakers, Celebration Bowl paths, and coin flip scenarios
• Maction returns with Wagon Wheel and midweek slates
• Division II and III mascot gems and logo talk
• Ducks’ early surge, Hurricanes’ form, NHL snapshots
• NWSL expansion to Atlanta and local support

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open And Vertical Streaming Test
• 2:59 Hosts, Banter, And Format Setup
• 5:55 Reels, Reach, And Platform Strategy
• 9:40 Hats, Hoodies, And Live Tech Woes
• 14:45 Age, Schedules, And Warm-Ups
• 18:25 Premier League Weekend Headlines
• 22:40 Tottenham vs Manchester United Draw
• 27:40 Sunderland’s Scorpion Kick And Arsenal Slip
• 33:10 Chelsea’s Wastefulness And Youth Surge
• 40:16 Bundesliga 2 Heartbreak And Table Stakes
• 45:06 Bayern Moments And Luis Díaz Reminder
• 49:16 La Liga Asides And Manager Quips
• 53:36 VAR, Offside Lines, And Penalty Reviews
• 1:00:36 Simulation, Cards, And Tournament Rules
• 1:06:26 Time-Wasting Tactics And Snow Lessons
• 1:09:46 Bournemouth Blanks, Palace Grind, City Pressure
• 1:14:46 Newcastle’s Away Form Collapse
• 1:20:06 Learning The Global Game And Club Lore
• 1:25:26 Canadian Premier League Final In A Blizzard
• 1:32:26 CPL Atmosphere And Wild Bicycle Kick
• 1:38:36 FCS Picks: Wins, Misses, And Upsets
• 1:45:36 MEAC Chaos Scenarios And Tiebreakers
• 1:51:46 Maction Week: Wagon Wheel And More
• 1:56:36 FCS Matchups To Watch And Lines
• 2:02:16 Division II And III Mascot Deep Dive
• 2:08:46 Hockey Snapshot And Ducks’ Surge
• 2:13:26 NWSL To Atlanta And Local Support
• 2:17:06 Wrap-Up And Tomorrow’s Lineup

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:00

Is actually here.

SPEAKER_07: 0:36

Wait, hold on. Something's different.

SPEAKER_06: 0:38

Something, something's not right. Something is not right. Something's not right.

SPEAKER_05: 0:44

Mr. Paducah, I do not appreciate the attitude from coming from you guys.

SPEAKER_06: 0:49

Well, no, no, it's not that. Something's different about you, about something that's set up. Did you get a haircut?

SPEAKER_05: 0:55

I did. I got a haircut. You like it?

SPEAKER_06: 0:56

That's what's different. That's what's different.

SPEAKER_05: 0:58

I think you appreciate that. Yeah, yeah. Well, uh also, your your face looks thinner. You look great. Appreciate you, man. It's it's the sweater. Is that what it means? I wear extra large sweaters now to make me look skinnier.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11

Well, no, your face looks really like chiseled.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15

It's not, it really isn't. You look great. You look great, though. I mean, don't worry. Appreciate it's a salt and pepper look, you know. Apparently, it's the ravis thing. And by the way, welcome everybody to break even sports talk. I know I'm not usually the host here, but I really wanted to put this out there. We are also live, technically, on a vertical one. This is a new feature. It is on YouTube, right? So, YouTube, as you guys already know, YouTube has vertical and the regular um six by nine, well, whatever, sixteen by nine, right? But here's the thing: here's the cool thing about the verticals. The verticals now show on the reels, meaning there's more views that way. So just what we're trying this out. I like it. I like it a lot. We're it's only going to show in our faces, and I don't know why, but like there it is. How is that? Is that better? Yeah, I think so. I want to just wanted to put that out there. This is pretty cool stuff, guys. This is new stuff that we're trying out here at the at Break Even Sports, actually at the DHC altogether, right? Because we want to make sure that we got all the latest and greatest, and wanted to make sure that we got everything for you guys uh today. So wanted to just put that out there because I'm excited for this new uh little cool feature. I've been waiting for this. This is something that's been in the works, apparently by YouTube for I don't know, for a few months now. And I've, you know, they released it. I was like, hell yeah, here we go, baby. I'm excited for this. So wanted to make sure that I give you guys the little info. So now that I'm done talking, Mr. Producer, it's all yours, and Mr. Prospector, it's all yours.

SPEAKER_06: 2:52

So uh welcome to today's episode of Breakeven Sports, and we talk about uh some of the sports that we do not talk about on the DHC sports shows on Tuesday and Thursday. So we have uh soccer, we've got FCS, maybe some Formula One, maybe some hockey, maybe some NBA. We guess we'll we'll see how that goes. So no see. As usual, I am your host, the often celebrated, sometimes imitated, but never duplicated producer. And I'm here I agree.

SPEAKER_05: 3:21

That was pretty good. That was pretty good, man.

SPEAKER_06: 3:22

Tell me to practice that. Like I kept on screwing up the words. At one point, I said never celebrate. I'm like, well, that's kind of that's kind of drap.

SPEAKER_01: 3:30

So I'm here with uh you're celebrated here, my man.

SPEAKER_06: 3:34

I appreciate that. So I'm here with Ed and Patrick. Uh Donnie will be joining us once he gets back from the early bird special at the cafeteria. So um, not sure where he's at right now. I know he's got some problems, uh technical difficulties.

SPEAKER_01: 3:47

Well, he was on location at Piccadilly, and uh and apparently the Wi-Fi wasn't very good at Piccadilly, so he's on his way back.

SPEAKER_05: 3:56

Well, I mean, isn't that the the usual thing for uh you know for like the old man, you know, to you know, technical difficulties?

SPEAKER_01: 4:04

Well, the apparently he he had a problem ext you know you doubling his coupon at Denny's for the Grand Slam. So he went to Piccadilly instead.

SPEAKER_05: 4:13

For some reason, I thought it was the McDonald's free coffee.

SPEAKER_01: 4:16

Well, that's that was this morning. That's what's oh my bad. I'm sorry, I apologize. That's with his morning coffee club, you know, that that you know small town southern USA always has. I got you, I got you. Yeah, so we hope he'll be with us in a little bit, but you know, we three young men here, we don't uh you know, we're not of that age yet, you know, even though I'm still denying 40. But uh, you know, who's keeping up with it?

SPEAKER_05: 4:43

I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you.

SPEAKER_06: 4:45

Just say 39 plus one.

SPEAKER_05: 4:48

Brother, he ain't 39 plus one. He is yes, I am. I am 39. See, look, guys, we're on a vertical on YouTube. Man, we look good.

SPEAKER_06: 4:57

I am curious how that's gonna look like with five.

SPEAKER_05: 5:01

Yeah, that's the only thing. I'm sure it'll be like the lines, you know how it is. Like we'll see. Uh we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll never know. Hey, I like I like experimenting with it. Again, listen, I wanted to try this out just because I think it was it's a it's a cool little feature. Uh I I don't know if how it's gonna be with like five people. We'll see. Maybe it's smaller, maybe it isn't. I don't know, but I think in order for us to and I think this is something that I've been thinking about. It's like, all right, so we want to make sure that we're spreading um the the the brand into other like platforms, like for example, twitch. I'm waiting for TikTok eventually to be available on the Mac, right? So we can go ahead and and start doing that live on TikTok, right? So we want to make sure that we're maximizing every single channel available to us, and I think this is a way because Reels is really if you read you know, think about it, Reels has been one of the most popular uh forms of just re you know, getting as far as like social media and things like that, right?

SPEAKER_01: 6:06

Yeah, well, and also when you search for things on YouTube now, most of the things that you get are in reels, and they're not necessarily the YouTube videos.

SPEAKER_05: 6:13

I mean, think about it. ESPN now has their own section of Reels on their app. Yeah, so and and they don't call it Reels, by the way. They want to be they want to be fancy, they want to call them verticals. I'm like, bro, come on now. You got bigger problems than calling something reels.

SPEAKER_06: 6:28

You you gotta you gotta get your own name, honestly, copyright, so it makes sense.

SPEAKER_05: 6:32

Absolutely, right, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01: 6:34

So I like what Phil said. What about German shopping cart return championships?

SPEAKER_06: 6:40

Um that looked legit.

SPEAKER_01: 6:44

What about supermarket sweep? Let's let's bring it back.

SPEAKER_06: 6:48

I love that show. So did I.

SPEAKER_05: 6:51

By the way, I showed my wife last night the professional pillow fighting on the ocho. She was like, This is not a real thing. I'm like, oh no, no, au contraire, my wife, it is very real. And I showed her and she was like, What am I watching?

SPEAKER_06: 7:07

Have you shown her competitive tag yet?

SPEAKER_05: 7:09

I have man, I love the ocho. I love the ocho. There's got the weirdest things, you know, there, so it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01: 7:17

Is that where the slapping championship started? Like the you know, the like the uh you know, the face slapping competition? Did this actually probably because that's one that I don't recommend showing people that because they might want to actually compete. It's like, no thanks. Because that looks so painful.

SPEAKER_06: 7:35

No, I just don't remember when ASPN2 showed uh Magic the Gathering tournaments.

SPEAKER_05: 7:40

Oh wow and Scrabble so it's like yeah, I think was it last year or the year before they were showing uh air guitar championship?

SPEAKER_01: 7:48

Hey, they also showed the spelling bee, okay? The scripts national spelling bee.

SPEAKER_05: 7:53

Air guitar championship, bro. I'm just like, hell yeah. This is where it's at.

SPEAKER_01: 7:59

I bet you Virgil would have been good at that. Vir Virgil probably dominated guitar hero.

SPEAKER_05: 8:04

I think you I think he would have been good at air guitar.

SPEAKER_01: 8:07

Listen, I think he would have dominated guitar hero. It's like the rest of us are just there, and yeah, like Virgil absolutely dominating. And let me tell you something, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Uh the the president of Virgil fan club, uh a certain uh Basset Hound. Um, she would agree that um oh, and then and then maybe another another admirer might love that right now.

SPEAKER_05: 8:33

By the way, you look like you have like pads on your hoodie. Who me? Yeah, you talking about this for a second. It looked like there was pads, and I'm very jealous of that hoodie.

SPEAKER_01: 8:46

Oh well, it's it's getting its really first full debut because it is cold as rip here in Georgia.

SPEAKER_05: 8:52

Oh, same here, dude.

SPEAKER_01: 8:54

Is it not?

SPEAKER_06: 8:54

It is it is definitely uh is it cold in Gama as well? It is super cold in Bama right now. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 9:01

Look what the cider dude show up. Look at that.

SPEAKER_08: 9:06

Look who decided to change uh the link with nope, no one changed the link.

SPEAKER_06: 9:13

I don't know changed the link.

SPEAKER_08: 9:14

My my old link you said it would not be found because of some Mars thing, a new thing with StreamYard. Well, then why didn't they show up and you didn't there is a Mars thing with with yeah, I I don't it may not be that, but it it wasn't my my normal link, it was giving me a 404 error. Oh I was Piccadilly.

SPEAKER_05: 9:39

So and listen, I I I can understand that, but Donnie, I just wanted you to know that this is why we're doing this. If you look immediately to your left, I don't know if you can see it, but there is a vertical one. That's the Mars update. The Mars update on StreamYard, by the way. This is you know brought to you by StreamYard. Is now we're able to show it on the reels on YouTube, especially. That's really the main one where you can do now vertical programming.

SPEAKER_08: 10:05

Well, I also it and it may, I don't know. Our our internet, one of our internet uh providers has been down all afternoon. The one that I normally normally have my hardwire uh connection with. So now I'm over Wi-Fi, so I don't know. Hope my hopefully I'm not gonna be uh Patrick Spotty, but who knows? We'll see. Well, you never know.

SPEAKER_01: 10:29

I've been one of the most consistently reliable uh connections in the last few months.

SPEAKER_05: 10:33

Let's not talk about reliability, guys.

SPEAKER_08: 10:35

Let's not end the last few months. It's it's always it's always that disclaimer statement at the end in the last few months.

SPEAKER_06: 10:41

Once he dropped the Walmart internet and got that Kirklands internet from Costco, things have been like running so much better.

SPEAKER_01: 10:47

Absolutely. Thank you. I went, listen, thank you, Kirklands, okay?

SPEAKER_06: 10:54

We do have to address something real quick because um Patrick, you didn't mention you didn't mention my basset town.

unknown: 11:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_06: 11:00

Of course, my bassettown is the mascot of my uh fantasy team, and it did not go well this week for me. So um, you know, she asked me, was this game a must-win game? And I said, absolutely not. It's not a DHC game. I'm glad you brought that up. It's not a DHC game. I gladly get beat by 103, maybe 110 to 10 in that game. They could put up a hundred up on us as long as we get the win next two weeks after.

SPEAKER_05: 11:27

Uh oh. Why is it that two weeks after?

SPEAKER_06: 11:32

Because I'm taking the Pat Narduzzi quote about Pitt and Notre Dame and making it you know, this game's not a conference game for me.

SPEAKER_05: 11:41

Gotcha. By the way, I gotta call this dude out. That guy.

SPEAKER_04: 11:47

You're gonna win.

SPEAKER_05: 11:51

You have a 16% chance of winning. Why? Because you still got players uh playing tonight, so I don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_01: 11:58

Just one player, player, and that is a huge if you have got like an 11 point. Come on, please chill out. You had an 11-point lead. I don't even want to hear it. You got exactly 11 points with Jake.

SPEAKER_05: 12:16

By the way, I found this hat. This I don't know if you guys ever heard legacy hats. Yes, yes, man. Holy moly, is this comfortable? And I bought this hat just without it, but man, man, that uh that balled that bald head's looking good. Freshly shaven, baby, freshly shaven.

SPEAKER_01: 12:35

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_05: 12:37

Yeah, man, these legacy caps, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 12:39

Yeah, um, I have a couple of the legacy trucker hats. Um that they make them for a lot of um for a lot of college teams. A lot of the a lot of the Collegiate Woodbat. Collegiate Woodbat, um, legacy athletic. Um yeah, really good stuff. And Donnie, I know I don't say I know I pick on you all the time, but I love that hat. It's a nice color on that hat. Is that a is that like a Clemson San Francisco like collaboration? Did you get that straight from Dabo?

SPEAKER_08: 13:10

Oh man, I thought I thought after that compliment you were going to know what it actually was.

SPEAKER_01: 13:16

Well, actually, I do know. That's this that's City Connect, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08: 13:20

No.

SPEAKER_01: 13:22

Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_08: 13:24

San Francisco Virgil It's appropriate to this show.

SPEAKER_01: 13:30

Oh, is it like a cancer awareness?

SPEAKER_05: 13:33

No, it's soccer related. No.

SPEAKER_01: 13:39

Huh.

SPEAKER_03: 13:40

Thinking.

SPEAKER_05: 13:41

Okay, so this what colors are those? Because I can your your your signal is very blurry tonight.

SPEAKER_01: 13:46

So it's purple and orange, right?

SPEAKER_05: 13:48

No purple and yellow.

SPEAKER_06: 13:51

I first thought it was like an LSU San Fran hat kind of mix, but that wouldn't make sense.

SPEAKER_08: 13:57

It's San Francisco. You've got the color scheme right in what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01: 14:03

Purple and yellow. So it's another college team. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02: 14:08

Getting warmer.

SPEAKER_01: 14:09

Yeah, but it's so it's got to be in the California area.

SPEAKER_06: 14:14

Um it's an ECU San Francisco hat on your own.

SPEAKER_05: 14:18

It's not an ECU.

SPEAKER_01: 14:19

I mean, it's not the University of San Francisco.

SPEAKER_05: 14:23

No, because they're green and yellow.

SPEAKER_01: 14:25

They're green and yellow, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 14:27

It's not UCLA.

SPEAKER_06: 14:34

Well, that just raises more questions.

SPEAKER_01: 14:36

Is that the Gumbo Gators?

SPEAKER_05: 14:39

No. I seriously thought that was gonna be uh the Gumbo Gators.

SPEAKER_01: 14:43

Man, no.

SPEAKER_08: 14:44

Um you got me stumped on this one. Yeah, which team is that? I thought I thought possibly Virgil would come up with this university. My brother attended this university, Adrian. Uh went.

SPEAKER_01: 14:55

Adrian did, yeah. Like the Adrian that I met.

SPEAKER_05: 15:00

What movie? What movie? Well, well uh what is it? St. Mary's?

SPEAKER_08: 15:05

Mrs. Mayor could tell you.

SPEAKER_06: 15:08

It's not St. Mary's. This is gonna bother me. It is. This is gonna bother me. They're still trying to figure it out. This is gonna be one of those things that gave me. It's gonna take us two hours to figure this out.

SPEAKER_08: 15:17

I'm not gonna tell you, I'm gonna let you I'm gonna let y'all figure it out. Without telling no googling.

SPEAKER_05: 15:21

Okay, don't I'm not googling. I'm not googling.

SPEAKER_08: 15:25

You just gotta think hard.

SPEAKER_01: 15:27

It's all right in San Francisco. That's not the Norwich Navigators, is it?

SPEAKER_06: 15:32

No. It's that I I'm thinking it's a college. Yeah, it's can I see that logo again?

SPEAKER_01: 15:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 15:38

On the back.

unknown: 15:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 15:40

Can you keep it up there for like five minutes while your internet catches up? It's an alligator of some sort.

SPEAKER_06: 15:48

It's an alligator. Oh man. I've never seen Golden State. Oh my god. Hold on. Donnie, is that San Francisco State?

SPEAKER_08: 16:00

Bingo. Dang, I can flip that. I knew when he said when he said Golden State, I was gonna say you're half right, but then you started to say something. So I was like, state triggered it.

SPEAKER_06: 16:10

Yeah, when he said state, that triggered it. And it's like, that's San Francisco State. Why did I think that's a good thing?

SPEAKER_01: 16:14

San Francisco State Gators. Listen, I I'm not even gonna uh that's that's yeah, I didn't know there was a San Francisco State Gators. I honestly didn't even know they were a thing.

SPEAKER_08: 16:26

This was an own field hat from back in the day.

SPEAKER_06: 16:29

The only reason I knew about San Francisco Gators is because I owned, and this is the school's unrelated, but I owned a UC Santa Cruz fighting banana slug shirt at some point in live.

SPEAKER_00: 16:43

Oh yeah, I want one of their hats. I want banana slugs, I want a banana slugs hat.

SPEAKER_06: 16:48

I went down a rabbit hole about some of the other California teams, and I remember seeing San Francisco State before, and I kind of blanked on their color scheme until you said state.

SPEAKER_01: 16:59

Is that one? Yeah, is that like a 3930 type hat? Or like a flex hat like that?

SPEAKER_05: 17:08

Well, style, it's a um and your internet is his internet is oh horrible today. Listen, Patrick Larson, come with your internet.

SPEAKER_06: 17:21

Patrick, that's just gonna stick with you from live from now on.

SPEAKER_01: 17:24

It's okay. I've fixed it, so it's all good. And don't worry, I have so much crap on those two, it doesn't matter. Come get your internet, Patrick Larson.

SPEAKER_08: 17:33

I will do this. I'm gonna I'm gonna stop um I'm gonna stop the uh football game up there. I'm chewing up my bandwidth, and I don't have as much bandwidth.

SPEAKER_05: 17:44

Is your son playing video games?

SPEAKER_08: 17:47

Uh don't know. He may or may not be.

SPEAKER_05: 17:50

Nani. I love that. I love the fact that he scrolls in on purpose.

SPEAKER_08: 17:58

Or I could do what I could I could I could give you a little bit of ed from from last week.

SPEAKER_00: 18:04

That's true. That's true. Well said.

SPEAKER_04: 18:08

It's working good. Stop it. Don't don't jinx it.

SPEAKER_06: 18:12

So uh speaking of um that making that noise on the Monday show, uh, I was almost about to tear into you two tonight until, yes, both of you, for a take you made on the breakfast takes, until you corrected yourselves.

SPEAKER_05: 18:28

Uh which one?

SPEAKER_06: 18:29

Uh dissing you con saying that they were No, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05: 18:33

We're not dissing Yukon.

SPEAKER_06: 18:35

I'm saying, but when you talked about Duke being certainly sounded like it, it sounded like it at first, and then you kind of said, Well, wait a minute, there's seven and three. So it's like, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05: 18:43

Yeah, there's seven and three. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 18:48

I called off the guns, I called off the called off the the the head.

SPEAKER_01: 18:52

Well, I guess it's like traditional who coaches them, I don't know.

SPEAKER_08: 18:58

No, I knew it was Jim Wall. Traditional thought was like, okay, you think of Connecticut as a as a basketball school, not a football school. I mean, that's fair. And that was that was why it just seemed weird when you say UConn beat Duke because it's like they're not really normally that good in football.

SPEAKER_05: 19:16

They haven't been that good in football for quite a while. And I'll I gotta hand that to Jim Mora. He has done an absolute wonderful job at UConn. He went there on purpose. He wanted to, and we what we were just talking about. He is 64 years old. He just wanted a cushy job, and he's doing a really good job turning that program around. So I give him a ton of credit for what he has been able to do. And he bit a good beat a good Duke team uh this weekend. So kudos to them. I'll I'll you know playoffs. Playoffs. Although now he needs to work on getting stronger opponents, you know, now that he's seven and three, and to this year he's proven that he can play, he needs to up that competition.

SPEAKER_01: 20:00

Well, and in the real words of Jim Moore Jr., college football playoff. Playoff.

SPEAKER_06: 20:05

Well, it's it's kind of hard to do that when you're um I they probably want to get their conference situation fixed first.

SPEAKER_05: 20:12

The whole yeah, the whole conference is a hot mess. But yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_06: 20:15

Well, there's no conference for them, they're they're independent.

SPEAKER_05: 20:17

They're indie, right? So that's all so they should either. I thought they were gonna join the Mac for at one point. They were talking about joining the Mac.

SPEAKER_06: 20:24

I thought that too, and maybe I got confused with UMass.

SPEAKER_05: 20:29

I could have been. Although I'd rather have UConn than UMass.

SPEAKER_01: 20:33

Well, I was conference. Listen, the the the only the only thing that that's familiar that you can confuse with UConn and UMass is they both have you in their name. Because one is a decent team and one is one is a mess.

SPEAKER_05: 20:48

And one of them also, the other that one that's a mess, uh, guess what? No wins. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 20:55

So I agree, Phil. Bring back the big east.

SPEAKER_05: 20:58

I'm with you there, man. I 100% agree there.

SPEAKER_01: 21:02

Were they still were they were UConn still in the big east when Kevin Ollie was there? Uh sorry. Clear about growth. Sorry.

SPEAKER_08: 21:11

It's crazy to think that that Miami was in the Big East before they joined the ACC.

SPEAKER_06: 21:18

Virginia Tech was Virginia Tech.

SPEAKER_01: 21:22

I mean, and thank goodness Cal finally got together and made some sense and joined the ACC when they're when they're near the Pacific Ocean. Exactly. I mean, Stanford too. I mean, you know, the ACC just they just make sense. They get it.

SPEAKER_05: 21:34

That one never will make never make sense to be the Stanford one. Listen, it's no different.

SPEAKER_08: 21:40

It's no different than UCLA and Southern Cal joining the Big Ten.

SPEAKER_01: 21:45

I agree, but I'm just saying it's just like it's just weird. That's not as far of a distance as it is, like, I mean, as car like the Big Ten is at least isn't like pointing out the other side of the country as wait a minute.

SPEAKER_06: 21:58

Um, can you point out uh Piscataway, New Jersey on a map for me, please? The what can you point out uh New Jersey on a map for me, please?

SPEAKER_01: 22:08

Nope.

SPEAKER_06: 22:10

That is kind of far on the easter of the other side of the uh United States. Just saying.

SPEAKER_01: 22:16

What we're talking about talking about Rutgers?

SPEAKER_06: 22:18

Yeah, you're talking about Big Ten, now it's they're closer.

SPEAKER_01: 22:22

I'm talking about the conference name.

SPEAKER_06: 22:24

Uh-huh. I'm talking about the conference name. Semantics, exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 22:29

Okay, are you on Dabo's payroll just like Donnie is? Is that is that what this is about?

SPEAKER_06: 22:35

No, I'm just I'm just a big thing.

SPEAKER_01: 22:37

Because we know Dabo, we now we know Dabo pays Donnie, he pays everybody.

SPEAKER_06: 22:42

So I'm just a big fan of geography. I just want to make sure Mr.

SPEAKER_05: 22:48

Producer. Yeah. Is it true that Rob Acky has been fired?

SPEAKER_06: 22:54

Rob Akey?

SPEAKER_05: 22:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 22:56

I have not heard about that.

SPEAKER_05: 23:08

Look at him. He's all this gobulated out. He's like a what? Well, I mean I asked who is that?

SPEAKER_06: 23:15

It's the interim head coach.

SPEAKER_05: 23:16

It goes for Oregon State.

SPEAKER_06: 23:19

I've never heard of a situation where an interim coach got fired unless he did something to be fired.

SPEAKER_05: 23:26

So I mean he did get he did lose to Sam Houston State.

SPEAKER_06: 23:30

I mean, that that's why I paused for a minute because I'm like, he's not talking about that run, Aki. Okay, not not the one that that just dropping up interim. So yeah, I think of a program. Do you have to be?

SPEAKER_05: 23:43

I think he is getting fired. I don't know if this is like confirmed, but but he won the Pac-12 championship.

SPEAKER_06: 23:52

So does that not mean anything to that?

SPEAKER_01: 23:57

Not when you lose to Sam Houston State.

SPEAKER_06: 23:59

I mean, that's also true.

SPEAKER_05: 24:00

You couldn't score a single touchdown or point against Sam Houston State. You can't be that bad, bro.

SPEAKER_01: 24:07

Wasn't Sam Houston also winless? Or just winless in the conference? Winless in the conference, I think it was.

SPEAKER_05: 24:15

Anyway, guys, I'm taking over.

SPEAKER_06: 24:20

Yeah, that's Sam Houston from the other Huntsville. So um but before uh before we talk about that, I was gonna talk about how much I love geography. And there's nothing I like more, then let's go over to the UK first to talk about some Premier League games. Because guys, I think we had probably the best game of the uh season so far. But the question is, which game am I talking about?

SPEAKER_05: 24:57

Interesting. Now you got me intrigued now.

SPEAKER_06: 25:00

Because there's two games that had uh two two draws. One had late um late theatrics for their goals and calling two goals in stoppage time. The other one was a gutsy performance by a promoted team that also got a goal in stoppage time, and probably one of the best. Is that I don't know if it's called a scorpion kick or a it wasn't a bicycle. I don't know what that was. No, it's it's like it's a scorpion kick. Scorpion kick scold our scored on a scorpion kick, which shocked the crap out of me when that one went in. So the two games I'm talking about first is Tottenham and Manchester United. And it's kind of funny about that game. I don't know if you watched it because it was the early game.

SPEAKER_05: 25:42

Yeah. Um I do have a weird stat. We did draw though, so I was a little upset about that.

SPEAKER_06: 25:48

Oh, if you watched again, you wouldn't be upset with that draw.

SPEAKER_01: 25:51

True. But isn't this the second time that Richarlison has uh celebrated like an um an injury time goal only for that, you know, like it's the winner, only for it to not actually be the winner? I s I ought to send you the tweet that I saw about that, but there's two separate instances in different seasons, not this season, but in different in different seasons where he's done that. And I'm like, Charleston, do you not learn?

SPEAKER_06: 26:20

I mean, you can't you can't count the game out yet at that point. I mean, I know it was they I mean I hate both teams.

SPEAKER_01: 26:28

Dude, chill out, bro. What the hate with that team? You know I can't stand Tottenham, but you also know I can't stand Manchester United. I wish you both would have lost, but that but that's not possible. Technically, we did. We tied. I was gonna say a draw was about as explosive. You still got a point, neither of you does neither team deserves a point.

SPEAKER_05: 26:47

Your team does not deserve any more wins for the rest of the season.

SPEAKER_01: 26:50

No, they don't. I will be the first to say that. Um, and then uh Mr. Mr. Three Week Palace fan down there, but anyways, he is uh oh he Monday Patrick is back, guys. Monday's back, and you know it's it's raw. It's raw.

SPEAKER_08: 27:08

Yeah, he's been traveling and he has Mondays off. He's been like saving up.

SPEAKER_01: 27:14

Listen, I've been saving up, man. He's been banking some rage. He's been working on that one for a minute. I woke up this morning and you know, was at the control center, and I and I pushed the button saying I chose violence.

SPEAKER_08: 27:26

Yeah, he did. He he's finally come out of that fog from the uh the World Series loss and and everything else, and it's just like I it's a whole new day.

SPEAKER_01: 27:35

Listen, and and you can thank Donnie for this after sharing all of the rage from Blue Jays fans from the game seven loss because that was that was that was cruel but usual from Donnie.

SPEAKER_05: 27:47

Donnie just straight up went and stabbed you in the back and twisted that night. I just thought that was funny.

SPEAKER_06: 27:53

And then don't forget, you maybe to you, and don't forget he tried to do the same thing to you on Sunday. He sure did. Don't don't think we well, don't think we got don't have receipts on that.

SPEAKER_01: 28:03

Uh listen, I'm gonna cash him in.

SPEAKER_05: 28:05

Okay so so so wait, hold on a second. So Donnie chose violence on Sunday, yep, and then Patrick now is choosing violence on a Monday. You are where's the love, guys? Where's the love? Where is the love?

SPEAKER_06: 28:20

Let's not clearly clearly Mr.

SPEAKER_01: 28:22

Prophet was the one that kept the love together for all of us, and then once he's gone, it just it is a sad, it is a sad day in this country when when we're depending on positivity to come from Eric Prophet.

SPEAKER_07: 28:35

Listen, I'll say this.

SPEAKER_05: 28:36

We really reached the new low. I'll say this as a Tottenham fan. I we have been playing like shit. Our team has been playing like shit for a while now. So I'm kind of glad that at the very least, it's against a good team. We got a tie, we we got a at least a point out of this. So I'm I'm happy that at least we got something out of it.

SPEAKER_01: 28:54

I will thank you for not letting Manchester United win. I will say that to you. Because last week, this week, yeah. I can't take their supporters talking about, oh, we're back, and all oh, we're a great team again. I'm like, no, you're not. You should be like, oh, you're not. Yeah, you you drew against Forest, okay? And I don't even care if it was against the ginger mourinho version of Forrest, okay? Nothing wrong with gingers, by the way, Donnie. Before you try to say I'm trying to, you know, go after gingers. If you knew what I meant by ginger mourinho, you'd know I mean that as a company.

SPEAKER_08: 29:30

Anyway, all right. I I was I was ready. I was I was locked and loaded.

SPEAKER_01: 29:35

Listen, Sean Sean Dykes has done a fantastic job at Forrest so far. So you go back to your 975 proof whiskey that you're drinking. Um, can't wait for Ronda to steal that from you again. And um, you know, Virgil, now that I've gone off the rails, I'm gonna turn it back over to you.

SPEAKER_06: 29:53

Oh, thanks. Yeah, I was just gonna say just leave scorched earth pieces.

SPEAKER_08: 30:02

All I'll say about what I'm drinking is I I I chose this drink because of the sophistication that Ed has put upon us with all this new fangled stuff today. Break even sports is the sophisticated sports show. And so I figured I'd go with a sophisticated drink.

SPEAKER_05: 30:19

Oh, that sounds delicious. I wish I had some something to mix my uh my rum with, but I got nothing to today. I'm sorry. Um, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_08: 30:29

It's like just two cubes of ice and and straight out the bottle. And Patrick, you will appreciate this that the mayor is drinking the senator.

SPEAKER_00: 30:39

The senator.

SPEAKER_08: 30:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 30:41

I do appreciate that.

SPEAKER_08: 30:44

This is a this is a thing single barrel, straight raw whiskey.

SPEAKER_01: 30:49

Yeah. Rhonda, you you will get sweet Patrick, okay? Because you deserve it. Uh your husband does not. Um and Ed does not. Virgil might do. Virgil might, other than his geography comment. Um, you know. What I do, I didn't do anything. Oh, yes, you have. Virgil's built up such goodwill with me, though. I mean, I I love some Virgil Brooks. I really do.

SPEAKER_05: 31:19

Thank you. Virgil's all your show. Jesus.

SPEAKER_06: 31:23

Yeah. Uh so the other two, two draw I won the top.

SPEAKER_08: 31:26

All I was gonna say to finish just to finish, just to finish, Virgil, real quick. I was just gonna say this was put in a barrel in 2014. And was put in this bottle in 2021. Trent Krim from the I bought this at I bought this at the tavern at the Rainbow Row in Charleston, which is the oldest still active uh liquor store in America.

SPEAKER_06: 31:49

You interrupt me again on putting you in a barrel in 2026. How about that?

SPEAKER_01: 31:55

Have you have you ever seen that video of the backyard baseball where they hit it and they're like, nobody cares?

SPEAKER_00: 32:02

No, I have not seen that. I'll have to send it to you. It's it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_06: 32:06

So some of the other results from this uh from this Saturday, Slate again we're gonna go through first. Everton beat Fulham 2-0, nothing really there to talk about. Good win for Everton. West Ham beats uh Burnley 3-2. That was actually a pretty fun game, too. I thought Burnley was a was going to steal uh a home away win from that one, but that didn't happen. But then the other game, which I thought was probably the better of the, probably the best game of the week. Um I'm I'm not gonna say the season yet. I know there's been some good ones, but Sunderland.

SPEAKER_01: 32:33

Chelsea Wolves wasn't it?

SPEAKER_06: 32:35

Oh, yeah, it's like yes, exactly. Chelsea Wolves, that's what it was. Sunderland uh playing Arsenal, and man, Arsenal looked like they were gonna be top of the you know, consistent. They get the second goal on the road, and it looks pretty much done. Sunderland keeps on fighting, and then they get their goal in the fourth minute of stoppage time. Uh probably one of the most unexpected goals, I would say. Out of the way, just away. It was out of nowhere. It's out of nowhere. It was it wasn't against the play, it wasn't against play because they were definitely threatening at the time, but it happened in a flash. So if you have a chance to go back and look at the Scorpion Kick goal by uh I'm always pronounced this name, is it Brabi?

SPEAKER_01: 33:22

Robbie, I think is what it is. But do you think that David Raya made a mistake coming out the way he did? Uh or would you have gone after that too in a 50-50 like that?

SPEAKER_06: 33:36

I feel like at that stage of the game, because they were already down 2-1 at that point.

SPEAKER_01: 33:41

It was 2-1, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 33:42

I think at that stage of the game, you kind of have to go, you gotta kind of put that risk in there for that.

SPEAKER_01: 33:49

Because sometimes the three point to try to preserve the three points.

SPEAKER_06: 33:52

Try to preserve the three point the three points. Um, especially at that point, I think it was already clear uh Tottenham was threatening. Yeah, but at the same time, you know, that that's the part that's why with challenges like that. They sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. That's why it's called a 50-50. But yeah, Sunderland showed um, Sunderland showed some fight for sure. And um I was kind of a little, I was a little of a doubter about their place on the table, thinking it was just kind of like beginners. I'm not gonna say beginners' luck, but you know, just kind of, you know, they're a fresh new team and all that, everything's going to be like, but with a comeback like that, especially against the top team of the league by a few good amount of points, um, yeah, I they're legit. That that that's a that that's a that that result there, even though it was a draw, that result there is what a good team does when down late against a superior on-paper team.

SPEAKER_01: 36:55

The part with Sunderland that I'm so impressed with is that they um it is the fact that they bought so many new players that they haven't had a chance to really bet in to build that chemistry, but they built they've seemed to have built to chemistry so quickly because there are a lot of new players that that Sunderland brought in in the close season. And to be playing together like they are already is a real credit to the manager. And I mean they produced really good away performances. I mean, Chelsea's about uh you know, at Stanford Bridge is about as good of an away performance as I've seen any team do in a while. And they looked at they they looked up for it from the first minute. Um, I think that they were a little outclassed to start the game by Arsenal, and Arsenal really showed their class and what they can do when they're being deadly. But um credit to them for just not for not dropping the energy levels and for for for working their socks off until until until full time because that's the so I think in the end, just from their work rate, they earned a point. But it was a great performance from Sunderland.

SPEAKER_06: 38:08

Yeah, definitely a well-deserved uh point for sure. And also you make Arsenal drop points, which I'm sure uh Manchester I was delighted. Oh yeah, I'm sure, and Manchester City and Liverpool are all probably also happy about that, but we'll get to their game soon.

SPEAKER_01: 38:23

Yeah, inexplicably, somehow somehow Chelsea's in in third. I don't I can't justify that or even figure out how in the world that's possible, but Chelsea is in third place going going into the international, going into like the 1400th international break of the season.

SPEAKER_06: 38:42

And then the uh last game to talk about they didn't get Chelsea. Chelsea beat Wolves 3-0. Yeah, did not get a red card.

SPEAKER_01: 38:50

Listen, uh you'll you'll take progress where it comes. And um uh they made hard work of it. Uh you know, like the um through most of the first half, it didn't look well, really through the first half, they they just couldn't break through and score against wolves. They completely dominated wolves, but they just couldn't put the ball in the back of the net. But um luckily they kind of took care of everything early in the second half and got their got their first goal. And um I thought Garnacho, I never thought I'd say these words, I thought Garnacho played really well, um you know, getting two assists, and he he was attacking the fullbacks like like he's been asked to do. And um yeah, he put it he put the ball on a plate, and um uh uh and then and then Esteval coming on and uh changing the game as well. I mean it was a comfortable win in the end, but it was not as comfortable as it maybe looks by the score line.

SPEAKER_06: 39:58

So um well, going off the stats itself, um the disparity is pretty huge. So I I would I kind of side was probably a lot more comfortable because the shot total was 20 to 3.

SPEAKER_01: 40:10

Yeah and I think the problem is that Chelsea is so wasteful up front, they do not it takes a lot for them to convert chances. They're not efficient with the chances that they get, but still the youngest team in the league, and despite spending as much money as they have, and there's still some somehow, thanks to a very inconsistent league overall, um they're they're in they're in they're in the top three at the moment. So I'm even though we drop points we shouldn't have, I'm delighted with where we are at the moment.

SPEAKER_06: 40:48

While your team did well, and while your team got a point, Ed. There's another Saturday result that did happen that left some of us heartbroken, crushed even. Wow. And we have to go to Bundesliga 2 for that. Oh god. Because Kai.

SPEAKER_05: 41:09

We really are getting into the little nitty-gritty.

SPEAKER_01: 41:12

That's where that's where a humongous football club plays their football end.

SPEAKER_06: 41:17

Well, this is this is the sad one because I watched the entire game because it was the late game. Kajuslaudern was hosting Hertha Berlin, and Hertha Berlin continues their streak of five straight wins. But what makes it hurt the most is during this game they were trying to get through their defense, and it took a while. Looks like it was not gonna happen. Every time there was a shot cross in there, there was the uh I forgot the guy's name, but he was like a 35-year-old center center defenseman, just hitting out every single time, had two line clearances, and then in the stoppage time, the man who had eight game, eight goals in eight games, progen, scores the goal. And we are I am going crazy in the Brooks house. We're watching, you know, I was thinking it's gonna be great. I went back and listened to the crowd reaction, and then he was called offsides. Oh, that's heartbreaking. What turned into a oh my god, we got a point, let's just get it out of there before it gets worse, turned into a crushing defeat. Now, defeats happen, losses happen, but what made this one worse was because what happened in the table. That means fourth place is open if Kaiser Slarden wins. They would have gone up to fourth tied with Elversburg on point on um points, but not goal differential, and they could not do it. So because of that, they are sitting back in seventh.

SPEAKER_05: 43:02

Yikes. From going from you would have been in fourth, but you went all the way down to seventh or stayed in seventh.

SPEAKER_06: 43:09

Stayed in seventh. It's kind of a it was definitely a tough game. Um, like I said, very defensive game on her part. They they got their goal. Uh, I wouldn't say they parked the bus. That's not really how they play because they were still threatening on that side, but they were able to just control a lot of the a lot of the um a lot of the uh a lot of their box, a lot of the shots just did not land. So it was a back to reality game for Kaiser Slaughter, but you know, we'll keep on going.

SPEAKER_05: 43:39

That's rough. I'll give you that. That's actually that's actually that's that's rough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 43:46

And why why of all teams would you let Hertha Berlin win?

SPEAKER_06: 43:51

I don't know. I'm getting tired of these small clubs coming in here and thinking they're they're hot stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 43:57

I know these minnow clubs, I'm so sick of it.

SPEAKER_06: 44:00

I know. No, Hertha is like literally one of the biggest clubs in Germany. They are.

SPEAKER_01: 44:06

My actual my actual real question is what in the world are they doing in Bundesliga 2?

SPEAKER_06: 44:11

Uh financial problems.

SPEAKER_01: 44:13

Well, I yeah, but I'm like, like teams like them and Schalke should not be in Bundesliga 2. No, no. But you're right, both teams, uh financial problems, uh, have them there. Hamburg financial problems.

SPEAKER_06: 44:27

Um however, even after saying all this, apparently I was not the worst German team that had the worst result on Saturday.

SPEAKER_01: 44:40

Would you say you were in good company?

SPEAKER_06: 44:43

I think I was in very good company because another Berlin team had a um had a pretty good game against the uh superpowers of Bayern Munich. And it took a Henry a Harry Kane stoppage goal to win to tie that game. Um now I will say this the Lewis Diaz goal from Bayern. If if you have not seen that goal, go go go watch it. Filthy is a fantastic work for that goal. Filthy.

SPEAKER_08: 45:12

That was yeah. I mean, that was like one-on-one.

unknown: 45:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 45:18

That was one-on-one, one-on-one. That's what I was trying to say. Because that was crazy how he handled that.

SPEAKER_01: 45:25

Yeah. Donnie, I've I've I have an impromptu quiz for you. Where did your beloved where did your beloved Byron get Luis Diaz from? Latin America. No, like what was his what was his club? What was his club before this without googling either of you?

SPEAKER_08: 45:45

I can't, I I can't, I I cannot honestly tell you.

SPEAKER_05: 45:47

You gotta give me some hints here. You know that both of us are not as I mean neither of you need to walk alone, okay?

SPEAKER_08: 45:54

Um, okay, so we gotta hang on. Yeah, we gotta hold hands here.

SPEAKER_01: 46:01

Yes. You know what? This is worth it. You know, you'll you because you'll never walk alone.

SPEAKER_08: 46:09

Um did he come from Chelsea? Wanderers? No, Arsenal.

SPEAKER_01: 46:16

No, Virgil, please help them out.

SPEAKER_06: 46:18

Liverpool.

SPEAKER_01: 46:19

Yeah, yes, okay. Liverpool.

SPEAKER_06: 46:22

But to be fair, to be fair, when Patrick is asking the question, I was thinking to myself, he didn't come from Chelsea. Why is he framing it like that? So now I know why.

SPEAKER_08: 46:30

No, that's why I said that to begin with, because I thought he was trying to tee one up that it came from him.

SPEAKER_01: 46:35

No, no, I actually was legit. I was only bringing it up because you know, with Liverpool being as poor as they are, and I guess we'll get to their game at some point. Oh, yeah. Um, I won't go into all that just yet, but I'll just put it this way: Liverpool is missing Luis Diaz at the moment.

SPEAKER_05: 46:53

Um, are we talking are we gonna talk about some La Liga too? I mean, because y'all are just talking Bundesliga, you guys are talking English Premier League, and y'all just disrespecting La Liga.

SPEAKER_01: 47:02

Apparently, you want to talk about Bolton Wanderers because you said wanderers. I didn't know if you were talking about Wolverhampton or Bolton. So both of them. Both of them? Okay. You like that? I like that. Well done. Yeah, I like that, I like that, and you're looking good today. You're looking good today, my man.

SPEAKER_05: 47:17

Yeah, I appreciate it. I'm going with the no with the no uh see there's no hate logos.

SPEAKER_01: 47:23

There's no hay. No, but um uh but yeah, that Luis Dia. Sorry to get us off track yet again for the umpteenth time, Virgil, but um, that was a filthy goal. But with how with how well he's playing for Byron Munich at the moment, uh I think that Liverpool is really missing him because um with with the replacements not and players from last season not not really filling what the hole that he left, um it's uh Byron Munich got a bargain with uh with getting in Luis Diaz. I think he's been outstanding. And and Donnie knows that because I mean he's been a long-term Byron supporter, so he knows he knows just how important these guys have been.

SPEAKER_06: 48:09

And also in terms of the Liga, congratulations, Donnie, on our letico Madrid beating Levante.

SPEAKER_05: 48:14

It's been a long month. I saw that one. I saw that match. That was actually a pretty good match.

SPEAKER_01: 48:18

Yeah, that was actually a match. Yeah, it was. What do you think about Diego Simeoni there, uh Donnie? Who? That was so on point. Who in the world are you talking about? No, the the manager for Atletico Madrid.

SPEAKER_08: 48:37

Um what did you add? It was cutting out, which is why I kind of said that.

SPEAKER_01: 48:42

Oh, no, I said what do you what are your thoughts on Atletico Madrid's manager, Diego Simeoni?

SPEAKER_08: 48:51

He cut off a gun. Um I don't have any thoughts.

SPEAKER_01: 48:55

You don't have any thoughts?

SPEAKER_08: 48:56

He's okay, he's good.

SPEAKER_01: 48:58

What about Connor Gallagher? That is a former Chelsea player, by the way.

SPEAKER_08: 49:04

You're just trying to make me look bad. You're you're choosing violence tonight. I'm not. I I don't I don't know these names like you yet. I'm still learning. No, by the way, you're not you're a high you're a high schooler asking a first grade questions about high school soccer. No. And that's where we're at right now.

SPEAKER_01: 49:22

Well, then let me be fair. Um, did you watch any of the Atletico Madrid game? I I I wasn't I watched a part of it.

SPEAKER_08: 49:31

Uh yes, I watched some of the Atletico Madrid.

SPEAKER_01: 49:33

What'd you think of the performan'd you think of the performance?

SPEAKER_08: 49:41

I don't know. It's just kind of like eh.

SPEAKER_01: 49:44

Okay. I'm really not trying to show you up. I was just I was just curious.

SPEAKER_02: 49:50

I think it's time for me to choose.

SPEAKER_01: 49:52

I mostly watched I did not watch it, so that's why I'm wondering.

SPEAKER_02: 49:57

I think it's time for me to choose a game.

SPEAKER_08: 49:59

I I didn't watch very much I did watch uh half of the crystal game because I was gone for part of the day uh on Sunday. Um I did watch all of uh the Byron game, which I've which this is what struck me because um how they pronounce union, or at least they probably pronounce it correctly. I'm saying it wrong, but every interview is union. They kept saying union, and I was like, did he say union?

SPEAKER_01: 50:30

I was like, okay. Yeah, well that's probably the German accent, right? That's yeah, I I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it was you know um, they do say that like that, don't they? Well, uh you have to understand my German accent is horrific, but um that that's how I believe one would say it. Um my uh my German friends would cringe hearing me try to say it in their in their dialect, but you know, that's that's okay. Yeah, sometimes it's announced. I just go ahead Donnie, I'm sorry. I did not I in all seriousness, I was not trying to show you up.

SPEAKER_05: 51:09

Um, go ahead. Tell him he was, he really was. He was disrespecting you like that. Don't you dare take that from him, okay? Now he's got me feeling really bad. Don't you dare disrespect him like that.

SPEAKER_08: 51:23

Listen, I'm still learning. I'm still learning the names, I'm still learning a lot of the terminology. Umsides really gets me still. Um I I I've learned more about it this weekend. Yeah, because it was I was like, they call offsides.

SPEAKER_05: 51:37

I'm like, if there's a little bit of it because of their body ahead before the ball.

SPEAKER_08: 51:44

Did y'all see well y'all I don't y'all probably weren't watching the match, but I think I think it was the Bayern game or was it Crystal? There was one of them they showed, I think it was Bayern, they showed the um like the digital. I mean, it looked like freaking something from uh Churchill Downs with the little red line. Like yeah, they you couldn't have put a piece of paper between there. It's like like how did you see that in real time to question it?

SPEAKER_01: 52:11

Uh so it's amazing to me with like virtual assistant referee or VAR, yeah. Um how it's supposed to be something that's supposed to help, you know, like more of a pedaganalizer. But yeah, but well, it does, and there's but the but what people don't understand, what people fail to realize is that there's still humans interpreting correct what what the what the system is telling them. And in fact, I think it's caused even more errors than if you didn't have it at all. It's just now you still have human error that's involved in the game. It's just that now instead of celebrating a goal, whether it should have been you know counted or not, you're sitting there for five minutes while they're looking at it, and you're like, Am I allowed to celebrate?

SPEAKER_08: 52:56

Well, and you this is what it reminds me of, and this is what I thought of when I saw it happen. I was like, Well, one, I was like not understanding what constituted offsides until I kind of got that explanation.

SPEAKER_00: 53:09

They don't know either they don't know either.

SPEAKER_08: 53:11

Yeah, it's like, oh, it's unfair if we don't have one of our guys between you and the goal. You have to let one of our guys be closer to the goal than you, or you're offsides. Yeah, it's whatever, it's a technicality thing. Well, this is what I was getting at. Um, in relation to in relation to baseball, um, with the new um in this A system, this is where we're going with that, because you could have a lace of a baseball clip the millimeter edge of the strike zone and be called a strike just the same. And that's what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01: 53:49

Well, but I'm okay with that because at least that's gonna be I'm saying, but that's a quick thing that you can do that's not gonna take five minutes. Like you know, you're gonna go to do this, right? Send it up, you're not sitting there waiting for it to be looked at by the book. I'm not gonna be upset about it.

SPEAKER_08: 54:08

If that's the case, then that's what they should do with soccer. Is if there's an offsides and they have that system in place, and somebody says, I think that's offside, they challenge it or whatever it's called, and boom, they put up on the screen like, yep, offsides, let's move on.

SPEAKER_06: 54:25

Well, the offsides go ahead.

SPEAKER_01: 54:27

Go ahead, Virgil.

SPEAKER_06: 54:28

You the offsides ones don't usually take forever on the VARs. It's whether there's not a penalty or not. That's the ones that are the red cards, those are the ones that take the time.

SPEAKER_07: 54:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_06: 54:37

Because the um the Manchester City Liverpool game, the first goal, not yeah, the first goal was trying to figure out if it was a penalty or not, and it took a while.

SPEAKER_05: 54:47

Well, and also like that the offsides, it's very quick. They see the line, they see a part of it crossing the line. That's it. It's done it over with. They move on pretty quickly when it comes to the the offsides part.

SPEAKER_01: 54:58

Yeah, and I think yeah, I think if you're comparing baseball and soccer, that uh the the baseball one is more the most like the ABS system in terms of time. I I think that the penalty that they checked for with VAR is a lot more like the challenge call in baseball when we're looking at, you know, was a call right uh, you know, was someone out at second base uh or third base on an attempted You're looking at the ball, yeah, the ball in the glove versus the foot on the bag kind of thing.

SPEAKER_08: 55:26

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 55:27

Or did the did the person's foot come off the base when they came in, or you know, did they keep the tag on? Um and they use the same they use the same type of rule about is it clear and obvious that it's you know in order to overturn it. Right. Um a lot of times with uh with penalties too, it's the same type of thing. Is it's isn't a clear and obvious error on the field that would cause you to overturn a call on the field. And so um and it takes like it can take way too long, yeah, determine that. Honestly, I don't have a problem with something else.

SPEAKER_08: 56:03

No, go ahead, Ed.

SPEAKER_05: 56:05

I was just gonna say, I really don't have a problem with with the the way I I you know, and again, this is me, you know, crit critiquing the English Premier League, but like to me, like if it's offside and offsides, you're like it's gonna kiss my team a lot. I'll say that. So um, because it's like you know, you and and you gotta also remember these players already know they know where they're at in positioning when it comes to the players. So like by the time this already gets to them, they're gonna try to get away with it, but they know okay, yeah, I was offside. So that's why you don't see a lot of a lot of fight back because they knew already, because it's been ingrained in their in their brain and second nature to them since they were kids.

SPEAKER_00: 56:46

So yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 56:48

Well, you can see some of them make a smirk whenever something's called against them that they they thought they were gonna get away with it, and then they're like, No, you didn't get away with it, and they're like, I'll say this, and and then you guys I'm I'm I'm sure you guys will back me off.

SPEAKER_05: 57:03

There's too much faking in in uh professional soccer with the injuries. It really annoys the living bejesus out of me.

SPEAKER_06: 57:10

Oh, you're trying to see in other sports too now.

SPEAKER_05: 57:12

Oh god, yeah. In football, you're starting to see that.

SPEAKER_01: 57:15

Well, didn't we still didn't we see the first fine a few weeks ago in the NFL for like you know for faking? For faking, like for fake injury, yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, did uh didn't know. Did soccer just get itself into Cristiano Ronaldo just join the NFL and I didn't realize it?

SPEAKER_05: 57:32

It annoys the shit out of me. It really does annoy the hell out of me. Like, come on, man. Like, dude, just get up. It's it's a time delay tactic.

SPEAKER_06: 57:42

I will say that um making the they call it simulation now, a yellow card offense, really is it's has it fixed it? No, has it changed it where it punishes people a lot uh easier? Yes, yeah. I forgot which game it was. I think I was watching a uh Dutch league game, maybe like a year or two ago. A player got sent off because he was he simulated on a second yellow. And so it's like usually I've never you never see calls like that where they're simulating when they already have a yellow. And Donnie, if you don't know two two yellow cards, you're off of the red afterwards. Yeah, to have somebody off for simulation. It's like that's that's how you try to curb that. You make that a penalty of the fact that we could even be sent off.

SPEAKER_05: 58:26

Let me ask you this for the two yellows, you get the second one in the in the match, you are for the rest of the game and then the full match afterwards, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01: 58:33

Correct.

SPEAKER_05: 58:34

That's what I thought.

SPEAKER_01: 58:35

It's a one-game suspension.

SPEAKER_05: 58:36

It's a full one-game suspension.

SPEAKER_01: 58:37

You're like if you consider what they call a soft, it's called a soft red.

SPEAKER_05: 58:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 58:42

So um, because it's two, it's two forms of red. But if there's a but but if it's a straight red, like uh without without a yellow card, it's three games. That's not the yeah, three games.

SPEAKER_02: 58:54

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 58:54

Uh but but we're you're but you're right, Ed. Like it's it's you get sent off regardless if you get a two yellows, then yellow, yeah. But then as far as suspension, unless you appeal it, it's one you're gonna the next game. It's one game for two, it's one game for two yellows, yep, and it's it's three games for a full red. For a full red, unless there's considered like extra violent conduct or there's something like with striking an opponent or something like that. Sometimes disciplinary panels will extend it further than that if they feel like it's uh like it's necessary.

SPEAKER_06: 59:28

One of the things that I absolutely hate in tournaments, though, uh that we will talk about this because I'm sure this will appear eventually in the World Cup or in the Euros. Uh accumulated yellow cards can also get you suspended.

SPEAKER_05: 59:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 59:40

I hate that.

SPEAKER_05: 59:41

Depending on how many yellows you accumulate during the World Cup. Right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 59:46

I hate the I hate the accumulated yellows where then and then after a certain round, they'll they'll expunge them or they'll you know.

SPEAKER_06: 59:57

I think the quarters are the semis, maybe. But yeah, you could be you could be in a situation where you get a yellow in like um in the third group stage game, your teammates it to the quarters, but you're you can't play because you already had a yellow beforehand in another game.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:14

Yeah, to me, it puts a stain on the competition to me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:18

Yeah, just follow the normal rules when it comes to you know penalties like yellow and and red. Like just follow the normal rules. Stop making shit up. I'm waiting for that. That's that's what that's what annoys me.

SPEAKER_08: 1:00:30

So well, another thing I learned in that game. Go ahead. One other thing I was gonna say that I learned last night in that game in extra time that uh was funny to me and surprising, but I get it. When uh late in the uh game, one of the players for um uh for Ottawa went off. Like he was I think he went atletico uh went off the off the pitch there getting the ball and then hurt and they drag they dragged him back on so that the clock would keep going. It wouldn't be uh that that was just the funniest thing to me. And I guess super smart. That's one of those little things it's like because I always like I didn't know like if if one person's off the pitch, then the clock stops. That's where all your your your stoppage time and all that comes from, things like that. And that guy's like, no, we want the clock to keep running, we don't want added time, so let's drag his butt back onto the pitch. It's funny you asked him.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:28

Just in the snow, just dragged him out. It's funny you ask you say that because Darlin was we're watching that game, and she was like, Did they just drag on them? Like, yeah, it's it's they're doing it on purpose.

SPEAKER_06: 1:01:38

So we will get to that game for a minute, but there's a few other Premier League things I want to talk about real quick.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:43

Go for it.

SPEAKER_06: 1:01:43

Because I am also we have to talk about probably the biggest disappointment in the week, and that is a team that I have been championing uh probably for the past few weeks. Bournemouth laid an egg, lost 4 0 to Aston Villa, and man, I they had a full, they had a Full squad too. So I can't even blame like a yellow or red card in that one. Uh, very disappointed in that one. And then also uh Donnie Crystal Palace, nil-nil against Brighton. Not the worst result, but also not the best result. You guys did not get Danny Wellbecked, which has been usually happening lately, but you survived that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:18

Uh no, that's only against Chelsea.

SPEAKER_08: 1:02:20

I mean, it was it was a bad it was it was actually a a really good match. It just nobody could score.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:30

Sounds like Chelsea.

SPEAKER_08: 1:02:31

I only saw the second half, so I didn't see the first half, so I'm not sure how that ran. But the second half was like, man, this is a great match, and so many I say so many, there weren't a lot of shots on goal that were were makeable, but there it was so many opportunities to have scored that uh they neither one of them did.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:49

Virgil, I think you made a really good point about I think that's a good example from Palace. You did it in our group chat. Um I think that was a good example of um Crystal Palace's European exploits. Um that there's just fatigue that comes into it after a while. When you're when you're playing Thursday to Sunday, um was that a Sunday or a Saturday? That was a Sunday game, right?

SPEAKER_06: 1:03:10

Sunday game, yes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:11

Yeah. So when you're playing Thursday to Sunday every week, and Oliver Glasner's even talking about this. I mean, um, you're gonna have a Donnie, correct me if I'm wrong on this. You guys are gonna have like three games in a span of five days, I think, coming up. Um uh it's like in three games. I believe so. Um because Oliver Glasner was angry was was was railing about that about a week ago, saying that that's you know, thinking about player welfare and all those other things that but uh w one one retort I'd have to that is they're not the first team that's happened to. I mean, it's I mean, you're you know, it's happened to Chelsea, it's happened to Arsenal, it's happened uh well, probably not Manchester United because they get favoritism, but um, but but to other but to other teams it's happened and it's it's a grueling schedule when you're in Europe along with the with all these other competitions, because uh in England you don't get a holiday break like you do in the other European leagues, they play straight through.

SPEAKER_06: 1:04:09

So my counterpoint to that European leagues real quick, sorry, Donnie. Let me let me just get this out real quick. My counterpoint to that is teams like Manchester, City, United uh United, even though you hate to say that, uh, Chelsea, Tottenham, they are in Europe every year, pretty much, year to year. So they they have the team, they already know how to build a team around that because you are guaranteed mostly European. That's where I think Crystal Palace will struggle because this is We're not ready for that. This is really new. Non uh Forest is probably another example of that. They're kind of in a hone mess right now, but I mean they they had their game, and you know, Ginger Marino got Mourinho got his win against Leeds 3-1. Good match there. So yeah, the the European schedule is definitely going to be an albatross on their net uh for them for sure.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:04

So let me ask you this, then is that so what you're saying is that these big clubs, they have enough players that they can swap out between matches, unlike a Crystal Palace, unlike Forest. Like they can they're gonna be suffering because they're gonna have to be playing their players a lot more than Tottenham, you know, for example.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:26

Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, theoretically, yes, but it really depends on does the manager trust those case. Like, I mean, they're still young players. Like, are they gonna come in and be able to repeat the performance that the preferred starting 11 will will have?

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:42

I got you.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:43

I got you. Um, but but yeah, I mean, they do they they do have squads built for a lot of competitions. Like Tottenham's kind of somewhere in between. Like, I think Tottenham's been trying to build toward that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:55

But it's got it's still they're still they're not there yet.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:59

And it's what is whether the owners are willing to spend, and also are you meeting profit and sustainability rules, PSR? I think I think PSR rules have made it a lot more difficult to do that for any team because you've got to, with what players cost now, you've got to you've got to fall, you've got to fall within PSR guidelines to be able to do that. And they don't take into account whether you're in Europe or not. It's just that you know if you're in Europe, you have to make the necessary investments to do that, but you've got to find the right signings at the right price in which to do it, and and you know, offload players that you don't want. Um which is hard because uh you know, a lot of times guys will teams like Chelsea will sign a bunch of players, but then they then they can't offload them. And they're part of yeah and Crystal Palace doesn't have like the money to to to buy players like uh Chelsea or uh Manchester City do um or Liverpool. Don't even don't leave Liverpool out of that. Like they didn't spend 450 million. But um yeah, it's uh you really feel though. Oh no, I mean Florian Verts, great signing. Um but you know, we'll get into that later. But uh it's tough for teams like Palace. So um uh really, really good first 11. I mean, as competitive as anyone in the league, but you hope you hope and knock on wood, you hope that there's no injuries and that um that they can keep up with that pace because it's a it's a it's a brutal schedule that they play. So um yeah. Good luck to Palace. They got they got the right manager for it, they got the right manager for it.

SPEAKER_06: 1:07:41

Yeah, so Donnie, I apologize for earlier. What were you going to say?

SPEAKER_08: 1:07:45

I no, I was just gonna uh reiterate what Patrick was saying about the schedule. I mean, we just just completed a Sunday, Thursday or sat, excuse me, a Saturday, Sunday, third Saturday, Thursday, Sunday. We got another Saturday, Thursday, Sunday, but then coming up uh you know like the week of Christmas, we've got uh the 20th, 21st, 23rd, and 28th. So you're gonna have a Sunday match and then a Tuesday match, and then you know another Sunday match. I mean, there's all these. I mean, it it's like we're playing three matches every seven days into into mid-January. And I don't know if every team is like that. It doesn't sound like it from what you were just saying, because not all of this obviously is Premier League. There's the other um other stuff in there as well, which is what most of the many of the the weekday games are. Um but like again that that week of you know we got Leeds on the 21st, Arsenal on the 23rd, and then Tottenham on the 28th. That's that's a gauntlet of of Premier League games in a week's time around.

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:49

I'm hoping that we catch you on the right time. I'm hoping that Tottenham catches you guys on the right time and we are able to get a win out of there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:55

That's the that's the problem, is that as far as Premier League, everyone has that brutal killer holiday schedule. I mean, it's the right. I forget the name and Virgil Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, I forget what they call it, but they call it like the uh the like the the busy Christmas period, or you know, I don't even know I don't remember what the official name of it.

SPEAKER_06: 1:09:16

I thought they call it like the winter period or something.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:18

Yeah, something, but you know, like where is like your seeming very original. Yeah, well, like well, my friends have like a special nickname for it, and I can't remember what they call it, but um um but uh you're the but like in France they're they're gonna have uh France is gonna have a break, Germany's gonna have a break. Um, but in England they just play straight through.

SPEAKER_08: 1:09:41

And it's well, and it looks like finally Crystal will have a break after the January. So all the way through January 7th is when they have this like three games every seven days, yeah, and then they go to once a week for like three or four weeks.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 1:09:56

Well, like in we got 17th, 24th, 31st, 7th of February. So it's like Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:04

Well, the conference league takes a break starting in January, I think. So um so a lot of what you're seeing as far as the Thursday to Sunday and everything is gonna be like you're you're it's gonna be you guys and the Europa League teams and to a lesser degree like the Champions League teams. The the Champions League teams are usually Wednesday, Saturday. So um well or Wednesday, Sunday, um, or Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday, Sunday. Um it's yeah, it I mean, I think it's harder honestly to be in the conference league or Europa League than it is the Champions League because you are so close to the weekend. Playing that one day, one to two day difference makes is a is a big deal. And it's to me it makes it much more brutal to try to try to play your best team all the time.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:54

And uh Polly, I am in my house. I've just I changed the uh the uh studio round. Polly, he's in the great room, okay. No, I'm in my office. Uh that's why the producer started, was like, it's something different about you. It's because I changed it up a little bit uh today. Uh but behind me, you can see the collection of my some of my collection of my Legos.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:18

So you see three PO. Is this in the house or the outbuilding?

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:22

The outbuilding.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:24

Okay. Um, so I mean, well, Donnie Donnie knows all about that. He's got a few of those. Um, you know. You know, you're talking about vertical, build up. Anyway, Virgil.

SPEAKER_06: 1:11:35

Uh the other the other game of note to mention, uh, speaking of building up, this team has not been able to build up any away wins recently, and their hopeful streak is continuing. Newcastle loses 3-1 to Brentford. That is another London trip for Newcastle where things just do not work out for them. Uh, early straight red card. Um, I don't know if it was a straight red. I think it was a let me see if it was a straight red or not.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:02

I was just gonna look if there was like uh the table of who's in the bottom of the table right now.

SPEAKER_06: 1:12:07

It's not a straight red, it was a two uh two yellow red on that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:12

And then they just how early how early was that second yellow that they got?

SPEAKER_06: 1:12:16

73rd minute.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:17

73rd?

SPEAKER_06: 1:12:18

Yeah, and who was it? Uh it was Byrne, I think.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:22

Was it Van Byrne?

SPEAKER_06: 1:12:24

Dan Byrne.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:25

Well Newcastle for having such a talented team, even without Isak, but I mean they've got a really good team. They've been abysmal, like you said. Oh, yeah, four team? Yeah, but I mean they've been abysmal away from St. James's Park. I mean, they have I mean, it's unacceptable for them to be as bad as they've been away, you know, away from home. I know you're not gonna win every game, you know, like you know, every away game. I I get that. But I mean they have been dreadful. Um and Virgil, you made a good point, like especially in in especially in London. Um I don't know what it is about that trip. Most people most most teams fear going to Newcastle. Well, Newcastle has to hope that they get as many points at home as they can because how many points do they even have away? They need to get some Tottenham form. Uh right. No, that's the truth.

SPEAKER_06: 1:13:20

You guys that'd be a good company.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:22

Yeah, you guys, you guys had the best away form in the Premier League. Yeah, but we suck it at home. Which is inexplicable.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:29

I don't under I can't I don't get it either, so don't ask.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:32

But but I mean you're doing the difficult part getting Mac, you know, getting so many points away from home from you, yeah. From home.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:38

Newcastle only has three points. Oh, I'm looking at the table right now. It is not pretty.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:44

No, yeah. Well, but I mean, even with losing Esok, though, I mean, they've got a good squad.

SPEAKER_06: 1:13:49

I mean, if you've seen some of the Champions League game, they look like world beaters.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:53

Well, I mean, Voltamata has hit the ground running. Um, which I mean, I didn't see I'll be honest with you, I did not see that coming. I thought he was gonna need a betting in period, but he's he's looked quite good. Um, and then Gemaresh is Gemaresh is probably one of the most underrated midfielders in England. Um Jesus, their culture for angel is atrocious. Um and uh what's the guy's name? The winger. Um the one that they got from Everton.

SPEAKER_06: 1:14:24

Uh uh Shola Amiobi.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:28

Shola Amiobi like. There we go. Amiobi. There we go. Um, no, but Anthony Gordon. Um yeah, really good. Same, same player, right? Same player.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:42

100% legit question.

SPEAKER_06: 1:14:44

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:46

Donnie, you're uh out of this question. The two of you, how much time did you guys spend learning these names, these teams? I mean, it is I've been sitting here for the past, I would say, 45 minutes. I am absolutely lost at all of these names and all of these. Um I'm like, I I'm trying to keep up with you guys, but I can't.

SPEAKER_06: 1:15:12

It for me, it just starts because I've been watching really following soccer since 2006.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15:19

Is it because you're single, you have no time in your life?

SPEAKER_06: 1:15:21

Well, actually, because I was in Germany during the World Cup, but you know what, whatever.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15:25

Okay, cool, cool.

SPEAKER_06: 1:15:27

Yeah, no, I was in Germany during the world during before they hosted the World Cup, so I got to see a lot of the festivities going around that they had planned out. Yeah, and um, you know, once I kind of got hooked on that and started following American players and then all the places they were going to, like, I could probably name the entire Fulham roster from 2008 from all because of Clint Dempsey and Eddie Johnson playing there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:51

My god. I was gonna say I can name Chelsea rosters, I cannot name Fulham.

SPEAKER_08: 1:15:56

I can't even tell you this year's Yankees roster.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:58

But that but dude. I know you can. Not the whole thing, but I can I can name most of the Yankees players because I I had to watch them, I had to watch them so much this year against the Blue Jays.

SPEAKER_06: 1:16:10

But but for me, what makes soccer what makes soccer so interesting is there's just so much to follow.

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:18

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06: 1:16:19

You can you can stay, and like for me, like I like I've said with some of the leagues that we talk about, uh I have a very surface level knowledge of them, of a lot of them. I'd say probably the most in-depth ones are probably Bundesliga and maybe Premier League. In Premier League, I'm still kind of shady on because I don't really have a team, like we said. But you know, like every kind think about how many countries there are just in in almost all of them have a domestic league.

SPEAKER_05: 1:16:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_06: 1:16:47

Almost all of them have a cup tournament. Just think about all the players that you would see from there, all the all this, all the games. And you know, it's just interesting how many teams you can run into before and just and just kind of see. I remember watching a um an Asian championship, uh, Champions League game with uh Pohang Steelers. And I can't remember who the I think it was the Wara Red Diamonds, maybe, and that was a fine. That's a good one. And I remember there was there was a there was a like a 40-year-old Brazilian guy by the name of Denielson that was playing for Steelers at the time, and the guy was it was fun to watch, and stuff like that. And I one it was just a rabbit hole thing, and you get hooked on it, and that's just what happens.

SPEAKER_05: 1:17:36

I'm just trying to figure out which you know La Liga team I'm gonna follow so I can start investing some time and energy in this, and you guys are I made a wheel for that for Donnie, and I don't know where that wheel is. I mean you should look for it because I I think I might have a team, but it's it's a not a good team, so I I might have two.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:53

I thought you had one. Yeah, I thought you did. I thought you had one.

SPEAKER_08: 1:17:57

Yeah, you did I thought we did do that. Um yeah, you did talk about it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:01

It was either because that's that's where I got Atletico uh Madrid.

SPEAKER_06: 1:18:07

No, the the two teams that we've mentioned for Ed that I think he's talked about before was Mallorca and Villa Real.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:13

Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:15

I thought it was really Zaragoza.

SPEAKER_06: 1:18:20

We did the wheel for Donnie because he couldn't name three of the Liga teams at the time.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:24

That is true, right? Yeah, and I got a lot of people. But he still got a he got he still got one that was a champion. I'm like, God got it, Donnie.

SPEAKER_06: 1:18:35

But no, but no, that that's that's just how kind of starts. Like, yeah, that's how it starts for me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:42

Well, that's awesome. I mean, again, I think I much respect for you guys knowing all of this because it it is absolutely uh it's a lot, it really is a lot, you know what I mean. And the you guys know your shit, I'll say that.

SPEAKER_06: 1:18:56

But it's funny that we talk oh no, Patrick. Oh, before I go into segue, I'll let you talk since you I think the answer was I've talked enough.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:02

I think I think you can go into the next segment.

SPEAKER_06: 1:19:04

Okay, so as much as we talk about leagues that I follow, we talked about, you know, I watched the K League before uh J League and all that stuff. Uh, there is one league that I do not follow, and that is the Premier League. And um they had an interesting final going on, but see, I have to step away real quick. So Donnie and Ed, since you two watched almost all this. Uh, you two talk about the insane game that was Athletical Ottawa against Calvary FC.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:35

I'll say this because I was watching it last night during dinner, and I was like befuddled at what I was what I was like, it was like insanity. I'm like, like, am I watching this? So I I I lit I told Daryl, I was like, hold on a second, I gotta text the guy's like, you guys gotta put this on, right? Because the year before there was no snow. It was no snow on the ground, it was like normal, everybody was it was normal soccer, right? A little chili, obviously, it's Canada. This year, it was full on blizzard, and this kid Rodriguez, is it Rodriguez from Atletico, Ottawa? Yeah, holy yeah, Jesus. Yep. This kid is good. He is really good. That bicycle kick he had that he hit the top of the the goalpost and then just bounced in. It was absolutely oh, it was a gorgeous in the middle of a blizzard, mind you, right? Because like you're trying to kick the ball, and the ball would could only go maybe a foot or two. That was it.

SPEAKER_08: 1:20:40

Yeah, I um I randomly came across this league a few weeks ago on a Wednesday night and watched uh one of the early uh playoff games between uh York and um oh, who was it? It was York and the Wanderers, um, I believe. And anyway, Patrick wants to say because I know he knows it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:21:06

Bullshit.

SPEAKER_08: 1:21:08

I don't. And it it was it was I I texted Virgil and Virgil's like, that's even hardcore for even for me. Didn't say that. And I was like, all right, I got one. Um I love that match. I love it. I love the energy of that match. And after having watched what I what little I have watched of uh Premier League and Bundesliga and some of the other soccer, uh this one was just it felt um it felt more grassroots, I guess is the best way to put it. Um because it was a smaller stadium, but it was an insanely crazy stadium. So then I was like, okay, I I I think I caught some of the oh shoot, what was it? It was um I think it was the Cal I caught some of the Calvary uh because York and and the Wonders was the one that went to penalty kicks that I saw on the 22nd. Then I caught some of the Calvary York uh game uh as well, and then I was like, I had it on my calendar or in my brain, not on my calendar, to catch this game last night, and I and I didn't put it on my calendar. So I thankfully you texted about it, or I would have totally missed it because as soon as you texted about it, I was like, wait a minute, where's that at? Because I couldn't remember where I'd watched it at. And as soon as you told me and I saw the snow, I was hooked. I was like, I didn't watch anything else. I just watched the rest of that match, and it went on. I mean, it was like an hour for them to clear the pitch of the snow and went extra time.

SPEAKER_05: 1:22:45

I went to go get ice cream, came back. I even got scared because Patrick go, oh my god, that goal was insane. And I thought I was like, No, I missed a game, I missed it. And then I was like, What?

SPEAKER_08: 1:22:58

He was late responding to the the the bicycle kick.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:02

Yeah, he was. Well, I was because I saw because I didn't tune in the the minute that Ed said you needed to, I wasn't in a position, but online, yeah, someone had clipped it up and put it on and put it on Twitter. So then I saw it there and I was like, that was insane.

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:19

That was a gorgeous kick. One of the best kicks I've seen in a long time in soccer.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:24

That is hard to execute without snow.

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:27

Let alone, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:29

Let alone it. Yeah, but to have that kind of technique in the in the heavy snow that they were in um yeah, yeah, shows you the type of skill that was it Rodriguez that did it, you said it was Rodriguez.

SPEAKER_08: 1:23:41

He got both yeah, he got both both goals.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:44

Yeah, so and like I said, I know nothing about the Canadian Premier League, by the way. I know absolutely nothing.

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:49

I've I've followed it a little bit, but not a lot, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:52

Um Donnie has watched however many games you watch, Donnie. That's how much more Canadian Premier League you watched than I have. Two and a half and you watch two and a half more games, other than the little bit of this Canadian you know, snowstorm that I watched.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:09

I'll say this. I it's very comparable to USL. That is, I would put I will put the Canadian Soccer League it's uh not willingness, it's just that since we've been doing the show, I like I've been I've kind of stayed in my comfort zone of watching things I always watch.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:26

No, no, no, absolutely. But what you guys have done a good job of is um Donnie Donnie, especially kind of like getting to these different leagues, and then I agree, you Ed, going in and showing us like the Ocho stuff and all these things. I mean, I have an ESPN subscription now because of you guys, and so now I'm watching all this stuff. So thanks for spending even more of my money than you.

SPEAKER_08: 1:24:48

Well, the thing is, when I when I came across that Wednesday game, thank you, Ed.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:53

Yeah, so yeah, what so Joe, just so you know, yes, it is a good looking hoodie, and I love it. You know who's responsible for me buying this? Ed Rivera. It's his Instagram content. Thank you, rising creator. And don't worry, Donnie spent plenty of my money too. He sent he sends me stuff.

SPEAKER_08: 1:25:11

Y'all spent plenty of mine. It goes around.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:14

We all we all think exactly, we have. But I'll say this it is and then and then you know, I I'm not it's gonna take me a while to really get it to the same level or at least a comparable level of knowledge when it comes to I do know the rules, I'm getting better with the rules and all that, like the off-size and things like that, right? There's certain things that I'm still a little confused about, like set pieces and things like that, but it's gonna take some time for me to get used to it. But every morning, every Saturday morning, without without fail. It goes on to either on ESPN or on CBS sports, because there's there's at least one match that I'm watching. Yeah, and usually it's on on ESPN because I'm watching La Liga more now, trying to figure out which team I kind of want to follow. So it's it's that's where we're at right now.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:01

To be fair to you, uh the players don't even know how to how to figure out set pieces because you because you know they don't they certainly don't know how to defend them. Um but uh um anyways, Donnie, I interrupted you earlier. I'm sorry, what were you gonna say?

SPEAKER_08: 1:26:16

Oh, I was just gonna say the only reason I even came across this league was because Rhonda went to dinner with a friend of ours um from high school. Um and so she was out, and I just I was sitting at home by myself, fixing something to eat, and I just clicked onto YouTube TV and I went down to sports to see what was on, and it was a Wednesday night, late October. There's nothing on at Wednesday night. It was before I think much of the uh college football that uh has midweek games had even started. And I was like, what is this? Canadian Premier League? Okay, well let me check it out. And I was just hooked on that game, and it was like just discovered this on a whim. And now it's like, okay, I'm gonna be following this league going into next season and uh and see what happens.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:05

Donnie, we need to get we need to get you some like throwback games and let you see a two like a cold, a cold, wet Tuesday rainy night in Stoke playing playing Tony Pulisball. That's what we need. That's what we need. We want him to enjoy smoker, not hate. No, what we want to see is we we you know, you know, it's in vogue now to do the long throw, right? Yes. Tony Tony Pulisball was the originator of making the long throw in vogue. Right. Rory Delight.

SPEAKER_08: 1:27:36

Um we've talked about movies before. Have you guys ever seen the movie Victory?

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:43

No, but I've seen a really horrible movie called Gold.

SPEAKER_05: 1:27:48

I've seen uh Linda like that come.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:50

Yeah, has anyone seen Gold?

SPEAKER_08: 1:27:54

If you get a chance, I don't even know where you can find it. If you get a chance, look up the movie Victory. It has um Pele in it, it has Sylvester Stallone in it, it has uh, I believe Donald Sutherland maybe in it. There's a few others. It's a uh like a World War I or two, I think it's World War II um camp, prison prison camp, where the prisoners play against um one of the premier German teams.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:26

And Michael Cain's in it.

SPEAKER_08: 1:28:28

It's just one Michael Cain's in it, yes. He's played as the coach, I believe, of the prisoner team.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:34

Donnie's been one of the things, yeah, because he plays I have to go and rent it in order to watch it. Thanks, Donnie.

SPEAKER_08: 1:28:40

If if if you get a chance, watch it just because you like soccer, and it's a well-done movie. I mean, it's a good war movie. It's like one of those great little sneaky good uh 80s war movies, but the soccer in it you guys will probably find interesting too.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:58

I I learned something new. I didn't even I I was thinking, in what world did Pele and Sylvester Stallone ever meet, much less be in a movie together? But I've been I've been humbled yet again. Like I am, like I am most weeks.

SPEAKER_06: 1:29:12

I was gonna say a diversity cosmos game, maybe.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:15

Uh yeah, I mean it could it has to be a New York Cosmos thing. Yeah, because you know that's the only team that he played in the US. Okay. Well, does does uh Sylvestra Stallone say I'll be Senta back?

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:31

That's I know that's Schwarzenegger. That's Wolsteneger, buddy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:34

I know I know it is, but it's it's the most I could do, you know. Had to work with what I had.

SPEAKER_08: 1:29:40

That's as that's as bad as your German accent, I guess.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:44

Ooh.

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:45

Yeah, well.

SPEAKER_06: 1:29:47

I'm gonna be honest with you guys, there's no way to segue out of that. So let's talk about XS.

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:51

Let's do that. Let's do that.

SPEAKER_06: 1:29:53

Now, before we begin, um I think it's time for me to gloat a little bit.

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 1:30:00

Because there was a end during picks on Thursday, uh there were a few controversial picks that were made. Um, some of them hit, some of them did not. But one of my FCS picks drew a lot of ire from a few people on the panel, and that was South Dakota beating South Dakota State.

SPEAKER_05: 1:30:20

You're right. You're right.

SPEAKER_06: 1:30:23

Now the only person that picked this, Donnie, I have to give you credit. You piggybacked off me after I made my case. But the I was very, very, very sure about this one, mostly because of how much of a regression South Dakota State has been having.

SPEAKER_05: 1:30:42

I should have listened to you. I should have listened.

SPEAKER_08: 1:30:46

Did I pick it? Did I pick it and disgust you and then you picked it so I stayed with it, or or did you pick it first?

SPEAKER_06: 1:30:54

I picked it first. I I picked it first because and I have to go back and watch the video because I'm probably wrong on this. I think I picked it first because I was I was one of those things like if I feel like I'm sure about it, I will I will jump before everybody else. And then you said it, and then I'm like, damn it, I must I'm gonna be wrong then.

SPEAKER_08: 1:31:11

Uh yeah, I think that you're right. I believe that is the game that because yeah, I think there was one that you did that on because there was a couple, one or two that I picked, and then you're like, oh, I was gonna pick that now. Should I change?

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:23

I'll say this. It was very close though.

SPEAKER_06: 1:31:26

Oh, it was. I mean, I I didn't think it was gonna be a blowout by any method. It was definitely close.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:31

Well, been disappointed it's not the cota state, man. I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:35

It's Ed, you talked about what you start to learn in soccer, right? Well, I'm in the same boat when it comes like to FCS. Oh, I got you. So why did I pick South Dakota State? Because I'll be honest, I love well, yeah, but um also because I love their uh I love their team name. Yeah, so do I. Yeah, like like how can I not pick a team called the Jackrabbits?

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:56

I mean that's a good name.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:58

I mean that's Like if I ever have to pick a UC Santa Cruz game, I'm gonna pick UC Santa Cruz no matter how bad they are, because I like the banana slugs.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:07

Okay, that's a good name, too. Also, by the way, South Dakota does have a really good name, you know, the coyotes, right? And then they they're they go by the Yotes. But I like the Yotes, that's a good one. I like the Yotes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:21

I I'm I'm I'm with you on that, but it's the Jackrabbits. I mean, come on. It's like so Donnie, I know that you're a lot more educated on that than I am, but that literally is how I made my pick. Just like when I picked Lamar, I picked it because it was like the first, it was someone's first name that I know.

SPEAKER_08: 1:32:38

So see, you you you sound like you sound like somebody's wife making up a March Madness bracket and picking teams with animal names and things like that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:47

100%. And I also picked Lamar because there's like a Lamar County in Georgia next to my next to where I grew up. So uh for the record represent.

SPEAKER_06: 1:32:56

Lamar for me was quite flip.

SPEAKER_08: 1:33:00

I see, I thought you went with Lamar because of uh Revenge of the Nerds is one of your favorite movies.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:05

I've never seen Revenge of the Nerds.

SPEAKER_06: 1:33:07

I have though, and I am very upset I did not make that connection.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:11

Wow, that's good, Donnie.

SPEAKER_06: 1:33:13

Very good connection.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:14

I've never seen Revenge of the Nerds. You should see in it. I don't watch I I I've I've seen maybe a handful of 80s movies. Um ever.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:22

Please tell me Elise Police Academy. No.

SPEAKER_06: 1:33:25

I will I will describe it as I will describe it like I do with any other 80s comedy. It really holds up except for that one part that does not hold up at all.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:35

True story. It was major was major was major league in the 80s, or was that 90s? 80s 80s. So I've seen Major League, I've seen Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.

SPEAKER_07: 1:33:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:49

Um you've never seen Planes, Trains, and Automobiles? How about Bull Durham? I feel like I have seen Bull Durham, it's just been years since I've seen it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 1:34:02

Thanksgiving homework is you need to see that movie before Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:06

What Bull Durham?

SPEAKER_08: 1:34:08

No, which one he needs to see planes, trains, and automobiles before Thanksgiving. Oh, 100%. Thanksgiving movie.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:14

Yeah, do I need to do I need to drive to Huntsville to make sure you see it? No, I will I will watch it. He's like, no, whatever you do, please do not come to Huntsville.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:24

Like when it comes to baseball movies, you don't watch them until you know like February. That's when you start watching prepping yourself, getting yourself ready for baseball fields.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:32

I I need to watch Bull Durham again because I feel like I've seen it in parts.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:37

Oh yeah. Okay, so that's an 80s movie.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:40

Yeah, I I have Field of Dreams. Um I've seen a lot of the baseball movies.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:47

By the way, speaking of Field of Dream uh Bull Durham, the city of Durham has actually approved for a they're gonna start um remodeling that field. Oh, oh really nice d bap as a as a historic site. Nice, nice. So DBAP. Yep. We'll see whether Sandlot League is gonna be playing next year, but we'll see. Have you seen the Sandlot? Of course.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:16

Yeah. I even showed it to my daughter, dude. Which one's favorite movie is The Sandlot?

SPEAKER_06: 1:35:21

Listen, we've already kind of blown over that. So like let's not let's not start.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:26

Let's not let's not yeah, let's not revisit that thing.

SPEAKER_06: 1:35:28

Let's not start that plot again.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:30

Are we not are we not reliving that legendary uh you know episode of uh break even sports about the movies? No, no, we're not doing that because we still got a lot of football to talk about. I was gonna say, because everyone was gonna say like that was the episode where we said, and next week Patrick's gonna talk about the rappers, and yeah, we're not doing that right now. Patrick never talked about that. I feel like we've turned into like an ESPN show where 99% of what we talk about is football, and then there's like the one percent.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:56

Well, there's football, and then there's football.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:59

Well, let me ask you this before we move on like ESPN programming. Get up and for sake, say don't don't you think that 99% of what they talk about in their three hours is football, and then there's like like the 0.5 percent is like the betting scandal for baseball or anything else, and this is including outside of the NFL season.

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:20

No, I I I stopped watching ESPN, you know. I don't watch either of them, yeah. I don't watch uh get up, I don't watch any of that just for the simple fact that like if I'm gonna get my my football fix, I'm gonna go to net NFL network. That's what I'm gonna do. Well, like it's they don't talk about baseball, they don't talk, they barely talk about basketball, they don't talk about hockey, right? They don't talk about FCS, they don't talk about they don't talk about the N uh NCAA football, but that's about it. And I'm just it's getting annoying.

SPEAKER_01: 1:36:47

Well, get up on Mondays, it's it's the same formula every week. So the the the first hour is football, nothing but football. The second hour is them repeating what they did in the first hour, literally almost line for line, so that people who didn't get up for the first hour can catch whatever they did they missed in the first hour in the second hour. And then in the third hour, you might get like you know, two lines about oh, there was this humongous story about a betting scandal that we wanted to make sure we at least mention to you. But that's why we're here.

SPEAKER_05: 1:37:18

Us. That's what us.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:20

I'm just saying, like, that's the formula. And I'm like, I could repeat you know the main points of that program today because they repeated it four times. Virgil, Virgil wants to say something so bad.

SPEAKER_06: 1:37:33

I'm sorry, but when you're talking about the betting scandal, I was waiting to say, I was waiting for you to say, we'll talk about this banding banding uh betting scandal, but how does it affect football? Find out in this next hour.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:46

Probably. I and you know what? I probably missed that part because I'm sure Mike Greenberg said that and I just missed it. Or or they're talking about the betting scandal, and then they say, here's the ESPN Bet power hour for the you know for tonight's game between Green Bay and Philly. Um, it's available all day until one hour before the game. They literally mentioned the betting scandal, and then they mentioned ESPN Bet. And I was like, I'm not surprised. That's shameless.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:13

No, I'm not surprised. Anyways, moving on. Yeah, I'm done.

SPEAKER_06: 1:38:17

All right, so back to uh football that they do not talk about. Let's talk about some of the FCS scores because there was actually another upset that happened that um I made a note of it and I kind of forgot about it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:29

Chattanooga Fermin.

SPEAKER_06: 1:38:31

No, not that one. New Hampshire beat Monmouth at Monmouth. Ooh, I saw that. I did not, I this one kind of went over the right uh under under the radar for me. I did not realize this happened until Sunday.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:46

Yeah, I'm disappointed in another game. I should have known better.

SPEAKER_06: 1:38:51

Which game are you disappointed in? Well, he took a flyer on Tiles.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:58

I did, I did.

SPEAKER_06: 1:38:58

I did talk about let's talk about more soccer.

SPEAKER_05: 1:39:03

Yeah, I took a flyer on that one, and you know, it flopped. A Philadelphia flyer.

unknown: 1:39:11

No.

SPEAKER_08: 1:39:12

The one that the one that got me, the the upset that got me was the Davidson Presbyterian. I really didn't see that coming. I mean, Davidson hasn't been horrible all year, but they haven't been good either. Well they were well, they were one and eight, they're two and eight now. Um yeah, for them to to to beat Presbyterian. I know that that was at home for them, but still that's Presbyterian just uh I don't know. They just they've been rolling until this game. They just I don't know if it was just if they're I don't know if they're looking ahead. I didn't look to see if they play next week. But they didn't they had 69 yards passing. Um they had a lot of yards rushing, but it didn't amount to much of anything. How many yards are 269? Okay, nice.

SPEAKER_06: 1:40:01

Good number. Yeah, the the the Presbyterian one I kind of have to do another one.

SPEAKER_08: 1:40:05

Mundy Patrick, man.

SPEAKER_06: 1:40:08

Uh let's say some of the other games. Um, and also we will talk about No, I'm sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_08: 1:40:15

Sorry. I was about to do that.

SPEAKER_06: 1:40:16

We will definitely talk about some of the games next week because there are two SEC teams that are probably regretting scheduling who they schedule. And if you want to play at home and look at the schedule and see who I'm talking about, one's super obvious, one's kind of a stretch, but still possible. So um other scores to talk about. I kind of want to talk about the MIAC for a minute.

SPEAKER_04: 1:40:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 1:40:40

Because we have an interesting situation going on in the MIAC, as you can imagine. So we have focused on Delaware State before. So here's the thing, and um, I'll go ahead and pull behind the curtain. We will be picking um once these games soon. South Carolina State and Delaware State are tied right now at 3-0. North Carolina Central are 2-1 right now. South Carolina State plays North Dakota, North Dakota, North Carolina Central this week.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:12

Ooh, that's gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_06: 1:41:13

If Central wins that game, that gives Delaware, um that gives Delaware State outright at 4-1, and then gives um Central and South South Carolina State three and one. The following week, South Carolina State plays Delaware State.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:33

Wow. Three-way tie at the top.

SPEAKER_06: 1:41:36

So with that happening and NCCU winning their game, we could be possibly looking at a three-way tail at the top of the MIAC.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:43

Oh, I cannot win for this.

SPEAKER_06: 1:41:45

I know as much as I enjoy watching FCS, um, I am not knowledgeable on Miac tiebreakers, believe it or not. I'd have to probably look up and see how this works.

SPEAKER_01: 1:41:54

I'm almost surprised by that.

SPEAKER_06: 1:41:56

Well, swag tiebreakers are a lot of this work. No, me no, I I I I have to admit, I do not know the Miyak tiebreaking situation, so I will have to.

SPEAKER_01: 1:42:04

Listen, I know I know that I know that you have the rule book on your bedside table, okay?

SPEAKER_06: 1:42:11

Uh you know, you caught me. I haven't read it yet.

SPEAKER_08: 1:42:15

I mean, Ed's got two good games in his backyard uh this week, actually. Monmouth at North Carolina ANT on Saturday.

SPEAKER_05: 1:42:25

So I know that's a good remote, but just so you know, for Miac football tiebreaker system, for a two-team or multiple team tie, if the tight teams play each other, head-to-head competition will be used to determine the representative. For multiple ties, the head-to-head record versus all teams tied will be used to break the tie.

SPEAKER_06: 1:42:47

Okay, so in this situation, everybody's one and one.

SPEAKER_08: 1:42:56

Sounds like they're going down to level three or four.

SPEAKER_05: 1:42:59

If a tie still exists, if a tie still exists, then the following shall be used. A six points will be awarded for a win against a non-conference division one FPS team. Four points will be awarded to a win for a win against a non-conference division one FCS team. Four points will be subtracted for a loss against a Division I opponent. And then D, um, the team with the highest point total shall receive the birth to the celebration bowl.

SPEAKER_06: 1:43:38

Wow. If this happens, this is gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_05: 1:43:40

Listen, listen, it gets better. If a tie still exists, then the following shall be used. The team with the highest Sagari Sag uh Sagarin Sagarin uh ranking will win the tiebreaker. And then B, here we go. You ready? A coin tossed by the commissioner will be the last tool used to break a tie.

SPEAKER_06: 1:44:07

This is amazing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:44:09

Please tell me it gets to that. But by the way, by the way, chaos. Listen, all of this for all this work to get to the celebration bowl.

SPEAKER_06: 1:44:20

Like all this work to get to the celebrated celebration bowl is big money for HBCU school. So I mean, like it is, it is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:44:26

It is. I'm not knocking it. I'm just like I know, I know it's still no. I mean, you know, I mean celebrate good times come on.

SPEAKER_06: 1:44:37

But right now, the projected um the projected bowl is gonna be a Hornet bowl with Delaware State against Alabama State.

SPEAKER_00: 1:44:47

I love this.

SPEAKER_05: 1:44:48

I cannot wait to start picking some some bowl games, guys. I cannot wait. I just want you to guys to know. I cannot wait. Oh no.

SPEAKER_06: 1:44:55

Oh, yeah. The bowl preview for the bowl uh celebration for the picks are gonna be fun because we're not waiting.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:04

Is it really gonna be as good as this uh Packers Eagles game is? Oh my god, it's horrible. You know, I mean, you know, by the way, uh the whole week they're like, this is gonna be the game of the week, and I'm like, uh bet it's not.

SPEAKER_05: 1:45:18

We'll talk about through Samarco. There's been some crazy surprises on these uh games.

SPEAKER_06: 1:45:23

Guys, you say it's horrible, but this was if this was two SEC teams, this would be a defensive master class for watching.

SPEAKER_05: 1:45:29

Oh, they will certainly spin it that way for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:32

Yeah, well, I mean, you know, what what do we all what do you call it in the Premier League whenever you have whenever it's an overly defensive battle, Virgil?

SPEAKER_06: 1:45:41

Uh I usually call it a bus game.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:43

Well, yeah, park the bus, right? Yeah, yeah. So um, by the way, um Virgil, correct me if I'm wrong. That's did Jose Mourinho originate that or was that used far before he used it?

SPEAKER_06: 1:45:58

The first time that I've heard the term, it was attached to some of the Italian national teams because of their counter-attack strategy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46:06

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_06: 1:46:07

But the term park the bus may have actually come from Mourinho.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46:12

Yeah. So um, Ed and Donnie, for your edification, that um when Josie Mourinho joined Chelsea in like 2005, I think is what it was, um, he he he he played a very defensive game and he would you know like Chelsea's success relied on defense, essentially, um, and counterattacks. So everyone would always accuse him of parking the bus. So he just of like being overly defensive. So he said, so he would just he he he kind of bought into that and he said, Yeah, all we did today is I parked a bus, and essentially that's you know how we got our wins. And so it became okay.

SPEAKER_06: 1:46:50

So I actually looked this up.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46:53

So did I.

SPEAKER_06: 1:46:54

Uh Mourinho. Go ahead, Donnie.

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Keep it going, Virgil. Keep it going, Virgil. So my internet's out.

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So Mourinho did coin the term park the bus. However, it was about another team that he was playing that he was upset he got a nil-nil draw against.

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Was it was it against Liverpool by any chance and Ralph?

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Not Liverpool, no. Do you want to take another guess at the team?

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Was it Bolton and Sam Allardyce?

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Nope. It's Tottenham. Which I was pretty sure at that time was Redknap.

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No, that would have been Martin Yole.

SPEAKER_06: 1:47:37

Oh, Martin Yol? Okay, got my ears off, sorry.

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I I'm sure that because I don't know that I don't know the Marine. Well, maybe second Stendham Mourinho, he was there when Redknap was there. His first one, it would have been Martin Yole or Juan de Ramos. Um Martin Yole would have been 2006, 2007. Isn't that right, Ed? In that wouldn't that be Yole?

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You got me out on that one, buddy. Um so Santini was actually the manager um June to November, and then Yol took over after November.

SPEAKER_01: 1:48:11

Wait, is is that Jacques Santini? Jacques Santini. Okay. Okay.

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Again, uh your you guys' knowledge is insane.

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Sorry about that, Ed. I I didn't even realize Santini was the Tottenham manager.

SPEAKER_06: 1:48:24

Uh I looked that one up, Ed. I didn't I didn't know that one on the top of my head.

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Yeah. Well, I had no idea Santini was ever the Tottenham manager. Um, so because like I said, I start like you, Virgil, I started following the Premier League in like 2006 when I was in England. So um I didn't really follow it too much before that. It was like September 2006.

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You went to England?

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You what?

SPEAKER_08: 1:48:48

You went to England? When did you go to England?

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Is this the is this the equivalent of when uh when um we asked Eric if he's the if he's the season ticket holder for the wind surge?

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No, I I mean you know I knew Paul had been to Japan. I didn't know you'd been to England.

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I'll give you that one.

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I'll give you that one, Dottie. Listen, so other things I thought. I'm gonna tip my cap to you on that one. That was excellent.

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Oh man.

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Anyway. Oh, I I just want to say to Phil real quick, uh, I saw that uh when he he said something about the ties of the rock, paper, scissors. Um I I just want to give him a little crap because I can't believe I can't believe that uh that that Furman scheduled such a weak opponent the week before playing Clemson. I mean they got VMI, which is a cupcake before they play Clemson.

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What's up with I don't know, man.

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Oh no. That was shameless coming from a Clemson fan.

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That is absolutely shameless.

SPEAKER_01: 1:49:54

Wow. You you guys do nothing but schedule cupcakes. You face LSU at the end of the year.

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So now you're calling oh Phil, that's you you heard that, Phil. Patrick called you guys a cupcake. Just just so you know that Patrick said that, Phil, not me. Well, at least I support our troops, okay? Oh, oh God. 2-0. That's 2-0 on you right there, Patrick. 2-0 on you right there, back to back. What's 2-0?

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I have clearly lost control of this show. Yes, you have.

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Listen, listen, I bragged I died to brace. I don't know what you're talking about. You got to continue.

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I'm trying to.

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I guess I got I got you on the England and I got you on that.

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Okay, I'm gonna start muting people. I'll stop. All right. So let's talk about some of the other games here. Yeah, we almost had another winless team win their first game. Almost. Almost. Mercyhurst beat Sam St. Francis by one point. They made it interesting, at least. Made it interesting to say at least, but you know, 1615 can't do anything about that.

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Ron and can I just say something? Anything I say to Donnie does not go toward you, Rhonda. Rhonda, you're the best. Just want to make sure she knows that.

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Hey, uh uh, at least Murray state we knew that he they weren't gonna be in it at all.

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Hey, that was probably their best bet, though. That was their probably their last shot.

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That was their last shot of actually winning a game, and I don't think they're winning one uh like for the rest of the year. That was that's it for them, Murray. Because they got North Dakota, and North Dakota's pissed off that they had a really good close game against North Dakota State, even though they lost, and then they got Indiana State. Oh man, they're done.

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Where's in the is that at Indiana State or is that at Murray State?

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At Indiana State.

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Okay, yeah, they're not winning that one.

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Listen, if Murray State couldn't beat Georgia State, that's their season's done. They've well when they when they lost to Georgia State, their season was officially through.

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Yeah.

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Uh another game that was interesting, although they did not win, a near upset almost. Uh Norfolk State almost goes in the Durham and beats NC Central. They only lost 31-28.

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I saw that, yeah. So that I was a little nervous about that one.

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Yeah, uh, North Dakota State uh beats North Dakota. Uh very good game out of North Dakota, in my opinion. I thought they really had them there, but they find a way in the end, as always.

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Watch out for North Dakota, though, when it comes to the playoffs. Man, I'm telling you, that team is, you know, they could they could they could make some noise here. They get the right bracket, you know.

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Yeah, I agree. Always look, you know, North Dakota does good unless you pick them to beat South Dakota, man, then they just don't show up.

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True story.

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But a team that does show up, and one that I was really nervous for in the beginning because they had to come back for a while, youngstown states beats Southern Illinois.

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I was sweating bullets there.

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That was probably I wasn't sweating bullets on that game, but I was sweating bullets on the next game because uh I I want you guys to explain something to me. How do you throw seven touchdowns and still lose a game?

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Are we talking about Western Carolina?

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We can talk about Western Carolina. How do you throw seven touchdowns and lose it? Patrick, are you okay?

SPEAKER_01: 1:53:16

I'm resisting the urge to say something else.

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Uh hold on.

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I was gonna say you could ask Clemson. Oh wow.

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Oh gosh, guys, why I just restored order. Why are we doing this?

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I don't know that we've thrown seven touchdowns in a game this year.

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So we're actually more talking about when you lost 46-45, but oh well, okay.

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Touche. Damn, Don, are you gonna take that from him? What am I gonna do? How dare he do something like that?

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But once again, my mercy of errors prevail. Um, I watched a good bit of this one and I was I was already ready to, you know, start the show all dejected because having you know my FCS team lose and my Bundesliga 2 team lose, and you know, just add it just piles on. Yeah.

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It does, it really does.

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But they found a way, and um, they get a um they get an interesting game next week. I'll be curious what the line for that game is, but we'll talk about that when we get there.

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Shout out to uh there's a couple of good games though. Like uh uh Eastern Washington made it uh made it a close one against Montana.

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Yes, but did you see how that game ended?

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I did not. Oh yeah, that was I sent the video to this one.

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Eastern Washington is on the let's say they're two or three yards, they're inside the five, and they're driving the ball down there. Well, they have to spike the ball, and eastern Washington's quarterback fumbles the spike, and Montana picks it up to win the game.

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Oh I did see that. That's heartbreaking.

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Absolutely, that is a terrible way to lose a game if you're Eastern Washington. It is a hilarious way to lose a game if you're a neutral R Montana. Wow, Montana's like exactly yeah, the the to say that they don't they bullet thing is an understatement.

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Golly, it's a grizzly way to win. Patrick, no, no, no, no, oh merchant 250 grand in NIL money as paid off.

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Um Purview AM wins 48 to 5 against Alabama AM. I just want to say that scored five points, so let's move on from there.

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Uh is that against you. Oh gosh.

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Yeah, that was not that was gonna be a blood battle.

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The same Prairie View that let me down the week before? Yeah, that same one.

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That same one, yeah.

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Should have beaten Alabama State.

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Uh Merrimack loses to New Haven. I think New Haven is new to Division I or FCS this year, so I'll always like to point out everyone. Patrick, West Georgia beats UNA at Florence. So good win there.

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Go Wolves. Austin P, baby.

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I'm a little surprised by that score line.

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So am I.

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I saw somebody in the grocery store wearing an Austin P hoodie today. Coming home from work.

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If they don't go there, it's random. It's still a cool logo. That's what it is.

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Listen, I've seen a few of these uh FCS teams ever since we started talking about them. What was the one that I texted you about, Virgil, that I said I saw?

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Oh gosh.

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We were talking about it. I'll have to go back and look, but um, it was one of these uh FCS teams that we were talking about, and I was like, how in the world am I seeing this? Like I would have not known like before we started doing this show, like what that was, and then I was able to say, Hey, I like your shirt.

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I feel like it was it was one of the Ohio Valley teams, but it's not right now.

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It was something like that.

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Uh other games we have uh Lamar beat Southeast Louisiana 14 to 12. So Lamar has the um Lamar has the sole possession of the Southland, but their battle's not over yet because another team is coming to play against Lamar, Stephen F. Austin, and we're gonna be picking that one too.

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It's all in the wrist.

SPEAKER_01: 1:57:47

Polly, that's not the Lamar we're talking about.

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Oh, I'm I'm sure he knows. Hey, how about that Idaho State though, against Kyle Poly?

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Yeah, Idaho State's been kind of down this year, so they both have been down. The UT Rio Grande beating nickels.

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I saw that. Yeah.

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After what McCutcheon was talking about with um UT Rio Grande, I've been well, I've been wanting to watch them a lot more. And man, that's that's a that's a great environment.

SPEAKER_05: 1:58:22

Okay, all right. Uh how about uh the cowards? I I think I think oh yeah. How about those cowards winning against Idaho?

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We don't need to talk about that game. Gotcha. Okay.

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Listen, that's not the mountain time zone.

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That didn't I think we I think we need to get uh Paul Caputo on something here. We need to send him over to Nala, Northern Colorado, and get him to change it to Bears with a Z.

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Just so he can have something to root for. The Bears.

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But we're talking about this week, guys. I haven't gone through the full slate of games yet, but there's quite a few games to talk about, and the first one starts Friday. So as I already mentioned, South Carolina State against North Carolina Central.

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Oh my god, again, that's gonna be good.

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To say that this has this this has celebration bowl implications, pretty much, and it's a 5 30 p.m.

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on ESPN too.

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I have no idea why it's that early.

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That's what I said. That's an early Friday right there. I mean, you're barely off work.

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Is North Carolina State playing on one Friday night by any chance?

SPEAKER_01: 1:59:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:59:39

Donnie, I'm not off work. It's in Durham, unless unless it's uh unless Duke is playing. Let me take a long time.

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I wouldn't think so. Let's see here. Hang on, I was gonna I'm gonna flip the ACC schedule real quick here, I'll tell you.

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Duke doesn't play on Friday.

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Clemson's at Louisville is the only ACC game on uh Friday.

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Right. So I don't know why they're playing that early. There's probably a reason that we're not aware of.

SPEAKER_01: 2:00:13

It's not like a homecoming game or anything, is it?

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Oh. Oh, okay. Ed, we have a problem.

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Why?

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Because there is a game that's happening tomorrow that we were not able to pick. That I feel like I feel like we've I feel like we've robbed America of us being able to pick this game.

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I know, I saw it.

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I'm so upset.

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I saw it, yeah.

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For those who are wondering, the battle of the wagon wheel.

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It is a it is tomorrow.

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Akron is tomorrow, and we can't pick it because I did not think to look that far ahead.

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I got Kent State all the way, though, so I don't care. Even though they let me down last week, I got Kent State. You've been with winning on the Kent State on the wagon wheel, so we're gonna stick with uh Kent State Golden Flashes to win the wagon wheel. Wagon wheel is coming back to Kent. Yep, it's coming back.

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Well, we can pick it tonight, and you can text Eric.

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Let me do that real quick.

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Not everybody picked Kent, guys, because that I said this last week. As soon as we all picked Kent State, I said, Fuck. I literally said that on the show.

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I'll take Akron at home. Because I'll take Akron at home. Does that make you feel better?

SPEAKER_05: 2:01:38

Do it for the content, okay? Hashtag for the content here, okay? Because I got screwed out of that one. Who got a safety? Is that a safety? Oh no, they they didn't have it.

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Alright, I'll take Akron at home.

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Okay, I'll test the prophet, so let's see if he actually answers in time.

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Or is he or if he if he even cares?

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He's gonna say, why are you texting me so late? This is weird. So Donnie, you picked Akron.

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We're interrupting his uh Packers game.

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Well, he picked the Eagles, so now you know who he's really caring about.

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Absolutely.

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Okay. I it's Kent State. I am going Kent State.

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We're gonna give Patrick Akron. You're probably gonna pick Kent.

SPEAKER_08: 2:02:32

Oh. This is probably why the other game. Oh, wait a minute. Never mind. Nothing. Never mind. Blah, brain fart.

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Oh well. Did you find something?

SPEAKER_08: 2:02:44

There's another game on though tomorrow night. Ohio Western Michigan looks like a pretty good matchup.

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So the Broncos against Ohio, the Bobcats. Oh, Ohio's a much better team. Bobcats are that's a good team. And the Bobcats. I cannot just tell you how happy I am that to have Mac back on on uh on Tuesdays, you know, some action Tuesday night. Oh, so happy for that.

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I mean, there's some good Wednesday games, too. You got Buffalo Central Michigan, you got Toledo in Miami of Ohio.

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Oh yeah. Don't look at that northern Illinois, Massachusetts.

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I don't even know why that's on TV, right?

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They're all on uh Buffalo is on CBS Sports Network, ESPN2 has Toledo, ESPNU has a Northern Illinois game. I mean, Kent State is on ESPNU, and then Ohio is uh on ESPN 2 again. Maction, baby. So Maxin. Playing in the middle of the week. TV that's amazing.

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Thursday nights you got Troy Old Dominion. Dang, there's some good games on this week. Every night.

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Prophet has made his pick.

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Kent.

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Akron.

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Akron, good for him. Good for him. Okay, Donna, you can go back to picking Kent now.

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No, I'll take Akron.

SPEAKER_06: 2:04:08

Okay, so we'll wait for Patrick to return for his pick. As we do that, we'll go over some of these other games here. Uh let's see. So we're talking about South Carolina State against North Carolina Central.

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Correct.

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Definitely looking forward to that one just because of the, like I said, of what that means for uh Miak standings.

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There's some some serious rep you know ramifications of that this game. Absolutely. Imagine North Carolina Central winning.

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Yeah, if North Carolina Central wins, that's going to make that that's that's the only way the tiebreaker, the three-way tie could happen. North Carolina Central has to win that game.

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I know that all of us are looking so forward looking for this uh this uh tie. So Morgan State. Wait, Norfolk State might have a shot at winning against Morgan State. Maybe.

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Uh I don't know. They did look good against Delaware State, kind of until then.

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Yeah.

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So I'm not I'm not sold on that game. Uh going down some of the list, you know, we got East Tennessee State, uh, Western Carolina. Western Carolina's a team I'm kind of keeping an eye on to see. I haven't seen any playoff bubble projections yet, but I'm wondering if Western Carolina is going to be on there or not. Uh Davidson Merritt is not really good. It's another pioneer of a game. A good 6-6-3 Pioneer League matchup between Drake and Gaiden.

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Yeah.

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St. Francis has a chance to win their game again against Long Island University. We'll see how that goes.

SPEAKER_05: 2:05:52

Hey, Harvard is 8-0, buddy.

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I think I mean St. Francis has they got Long Island this week and they've got uh Stone Hill next week. So actually have a chance of getting a win out of one of those two.

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Well, we're not gonna pick a Harvard game yet until um the Yale game because Yale is right behind them at four at four and one in the conference.

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So we're not gonna pick, we're not gonna and Yale is gonna get us a bad Princeton team, so it's gonna be.

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Yeah, I think Harvard will have that one pretty much taken care of.

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Yep, yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_06: 2:06:30

Oh shoot, just lost mine. See, you had you had me looking up Harvard's schedule that I lost.

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So thanks for that. Oh my god, dude. Here's a game for you. South Dakota, Southern Illinois.

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Yeah, that was that was one that may be on our list. Patrick. Yes, sir. We have added a game to picks.

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Uh oh.

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Due to an oversight on my part because I did not realize this game was on Tuesday. Battle of the wagon wheel. Kent State.

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Akron Kent State.

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Akron Kent State. Who do you have?

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Kent State.

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All right.

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I'm a matter, baby. Let's go. Go, Kent, baby.

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I was gonna say, you don't think I'm gonna I'm gonna pick against my guy Ed, do you? I don't care if Akron is at home.

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Let's go.

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This is the golden flashes, baby. We're taking the wagon wheel back.

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By the way, did you see the kits that they came up with for this week for that game?

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And an X Factor in that game.

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Oh no, I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_01: 2:07:25

Check it out. Look it up. Kent State's brand new coach. Reminds me a lot of like the way the players are, you know, the players at no name backed Marcus Freeman. Yep. So what? What?

SPEAKER_05: 2:07:40

What a catch. In the Packers game? Devante Smith. Holy Jesus. Was it as the Indiana catch? Touchdown, baby. Eric is not happy right now. I can tell you that.

SPEAKER_06: 2:08:00

He picked he picked the Eagles. Like, don't forget this.

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He picked the Eagles, but you know he's a Packers fan. He is not happy right now. Terrible. No.

SPEAKER_01: 2:08:09

Sorry. Let me make sure I do this.

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Good.

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Why are you not covering him? Why are you not covering him?

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Were Eric's not happy? We all win.

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That's terrible.

SPEAKER_05: 2:08:23

Oh my god, he almost threw that from the 50 yard.

SPEAKER_01: 2:08:27

We already have Jeff Half, we can't allow that to happen. That's terrible.

SPEAKER_05: 2:08:33

I didn't know this dude got that arm strength like that. Ha damn. Talking about Jalen? Yeah. Jalen, Jalen's got an arm.

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Dude, he threw that from almost a 50 yard. Yep. Anyways. Well, it's nice to see that there was at least a little bit of action in that game.

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I know, right?

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Goodness.

SPEAKER_05: 2:08:52

Hey, are we picking uh are we gonna is it on the list VMI Furman? For us to pick, or it's just just uh we're just gonna bypass that one.

SPEAKER_06: 2:09:01

You want a spread game of that one? Like no, I do not.

SPEAKER_04: 2:09:04

I don't care for that one.

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So no offense to Phyllis Furman because I mean we have Furman has been showcased before, but I mean like VMI's one and nine.

SPEAKER_01: 2:09:14

What is Furman's record actually?

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Uh five and five, I believe.

SPEAKER_01: 2:09:18

Okay. So Coach Hendricks has doesn't have a losing record yet. Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 2:09:23

No. But here are some. I now I did tease two um FCS versus FPS games and wondering if uh the SCE SEC school is probably regretting scheduling these games or not. The first one in question, undefeated Tennessee Tech goes to Lexington, Kentucky, not South Carolina, to play four and five Kentucky.

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Listen. They better be careful.

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I usually avoid um games like these for picks, but I need to see what the spread is gonna be.

SPEAKER_05: 2:10:04

There's no spread yet?

SPEAKER_06: 2:10:05

No, I can't find a spread for this one yet. Usually I'll find them out probably Tuesday or Wednesday.

SPEAKER_05: 2:10:10

Okay. It's only Monday, so yeah, you're right.

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Yeah.

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So we'll we'll have to keep an eye on that one.

SPEAKER_05: 2:10:17

What about the next one?

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Uh let me see how far down it is before I get there.

SPEAKER_05: 2:10:22

What was the first one?

SPEAKER_08: 2:10:23

I don't see another. I don't.

SPEAKER_06: 2:10:27

Oh, okay. I'm sorry. The other one I'm thinking of next week. No, I'm I'm I'm a week off. The one I'm thinking of.

SPEAKER_08: 2:10:33

Okay, I was about to say I didn't see another SEC. Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 2:10:36

No, the the other SEC one I'm thinking of is going to be next week.

SPEAKER_01: 2:10:41

What was what was the what was the first one you said though, Virgil?

SPEAKER_06: 2:10:44

Tennessee tech against Kentucky.

SPEAKER_01: 2:10:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 2:10:47

Okay. Undefeated Tennessee Tech against Kentucky.

SPEAKER_01: 2:10:52

Although Kentucky's coming off a huge win against Florida. Yeah, who will pick that one? Oh, yeah. Oh, is this another chance for you to gloat again?

SPEAKER_06: 2:11:02

I don't get it often. I can't do it in fantasy. So, I mean, I gotta I gotta gloat somewhere.

SPEAKER_01: 2:11:07

Don't worry, I can't either.

SPEAKER_06: 2:11:09

No, you are three points behind. What are you talking about? I don't want to fucking hear it.

SPEAKER_01: 2:11:14

No, I'm about to win. You act like you act like Jacus is gonna get three minutes.

SPEAKER_04: 2:11:18

Just ten fucking minutes left in the game. Of course you're gonna win.

SPEAKER_01: 2:11:21

No, I'm not. No, I'm not. He's not gonna get it.

SPEAKER_04: 2:11:26

Just ten fucking minutes. There's ten fucking minutes. That's that's three catches for ten more.

SPEAKER_06: 2:11:32

Patrick, you need to have more fiber in your diet because you're full of shit.

SPEAKER_05: 2:11:39

Can't nobody believe you.

SPEAKER_06: 2:11:43

Moving on. Okay, going back. Um, see, I lost my point again. Sanford, we have not talked about Sanford firing their coach yet.

SPEAKER_05: 2:11:55

Didn't I send you guys that? I did I think I sent it. Somebody sent it. I don't know. Someone did. And and they fire their head coach, and then they're going play against Austin P.

SPEAKER_06: 2:12:09

Yeah, not not not a good, not a good um start for for the interim on that one.

SPEAKER_05: 2:12:16

I I know that you're nobody cares about this one, but I care because they're my backyard. But there's two Carolina teams that are going against each other in the FCS. That's Elon and Campbell.

SPEAKER_06: 2:12:27

I would brought that one up if I was curious if you were Elon. Where is Elon? Is that near Burlington?

SPEAKER_05: 2:12:33

Yeah, that's it's it's very close. So I uh I'm very intrigued by this one. Um, Campbell has looked good in the last couple of weeks. It's just I mean, last week they made a close, it's just they couldn't close it out. Uh, so I'm very intrigued to see how this one pans out. Uh there's a I'm I'm hoping Campbell pulls it up, man. I'm I'm hoping for Campbell. And there's uh there's some points right there for your boy.

SPEAKER_06: 2:13:04

I I will I'm keeping track of that game. We don't need to worry about that.

SPEAKER_05: 2:13:07

Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_06: 2:13:12

Because um, I don't think Romeo Dobson is gonna score uh 10 touchdowns in the next nine minutes. So I'm my game's pretty much over.

SPEAKER_01: 2:13:20

So that game is over too.

SPEAKER_06: 2:13:21

So no, oh my god, no, it's not, Patrick.

SPEAKER_05: 2:13:24

Oh Jesus, what a tackle.

SPEAKER_06: 2:13:27

Presbyterian. Now, Presbyterian actually has a game that I'm looking actually forward to seeing. Um eight and two Presbyterian at 7-3 St. Thomas, Minnesota. Uh both uh one's four and two in Pioneer, the one's five and two. That's gonna be a fun game at O'Shaughnessy Stadium in uh St. Paul.

SPEAKER_05: 2:13:45

Is this the uh St. Paul, uh, Minnesota, the one that spent a gazillion dollars for their new um facility?

SPEAKER_06: 2:13:54

Um, I don't think it was gazillion dollars. Uh they are the one that jumped from division three to division one because no one from division three wanted to play them anymore.

SPEAKER_05: 2:14:04

Why did they jump from three to all the way to FCS? Why couldn't they just go to D2?

SPEAKER_06: 2:14:10

I don't remember the reason they gave for that. So I have to go back and look at that one up. Uh let me see, where were some of the other ones here? Florida AM is playing Alabama AM. Uh I just wanted to say that one, just give Alabama credit. How are we feeling about this game, knowing what's happened recently? Illinois state going to South Dakota State.

SPEAKER_01: 2:14:37

That's gonna be a good game. It is gonna be a good game.

SPEAKER_06: 2:14:41

It is gonna be a good game, but I'm intrigued. I'm I I want to see what the line is here because I think when it comes to when it comes to offenses, Illinois State may have, may have, I know they have a better quarterback in Rittenhouse, but Illinois State may edge South Dakota State on this as the better team, like on paper is what it looks like. So we'll see how that one goes.

SPEAKER_05: 2:15:08

It's gonna be good because it's in Southern Illinois. I'm intrigued for this one. I am.

SPEAKER_08: 2:15:16

I was looking at outside of one game. Outside of one game, Illinois State has scored over 30 points in all of their wins, and they've scored 30 points in well, one of their losses, but one of their losses was to Oklahoma to start the season, too. So yeah, I'm I'm with you on that. Their offense, I think, is a little stronger than South Dakota's states.

SPEAKER_06: 2:15:43

Uh Chattanooga child goes down to Macon to play against Mercer, which is funny because Mercer, uh Chattanooga Mercer was actually the um first game I saw last year when Mercer played against Chattanooga and beat them. So this is where it all started between these two teams.

SPEAKER_05: 2:16:05

This is where it all started with the FCS.

SPEAKER_06: 2:16:07

Well, not the FCS. I was following like SWAC beforehand, but I mean, as for like that was my first uh SOCON game for sure. So I guess getting out of that, uh getting out of that, yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 2:16:20

Um I mean you take the record out of it, it could be a good pretty good game despite the difference in their records.

SPEAKER_06: 2:16:29

Like I said, Chattanooga's got the talent. They just have not, they've just had a lot of mistakes this year. They just are really been down. That's that that's a team that's kind of I'm surprised by their record. Usually they're more competitive in the um in the SOCON, and they're usually more competitive for like pushing for a playoff spot. This is just hasn't been the year for that. All right. Uh more than Iowa travels to North Dakota State. I don't expect anything there.

SPEAKER_05: 2:17:00

Guys, all I'm gonna say is can I just say this? All right, we're following FCS football this year. Next year, we gotta add another one. We gotta add some division two. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 2:17:14

So division two is kind of hard to track sometimes because so many. There's so many, and it's all regional based.

SPEAKER_05: 2:17:21

Yeah.

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So it's kind of and division three is kind of the same. So it's I I don't try to not talk about them. It's just that I have to put in a lot more research into it compared to FCS.

SPEAKER_05: 2:17:33

Also, can we just talk about we gotta do a uh a bracket for uh these logos for FCS, division two, division three, because there's so many cool ones. I mean, for example, Ferris Estate is one of my favorite logos.

SPEAKER_01: 2:17:48

Fair State's good. I like Fair State.

SPEAKER_06: 2:17:53

Yeah, I have nothing wrong with the Ferris State one, but I'm afraid that the winner is gonna be Youngstown State because I'm gonna pull their penguin logo and not the Y.

SPEAKER_05: 2:18:01

Oh, would you have to pull the penguin logo?

SPEAKER_06: 2:18:04

Like, that's gonna win.

SPEAKER_05: 2:18:05

Yeah, oh god, I love that logo. My the wife would be very happy. That's that's her school right there. So those logos are fire.

SPEAKER_01: 2:18:16

I mean, sorry, those helmets. Those helmets are fire.

SPEAKER_05: 2:18:18

Those those penguin helmets, god, yeah. She doesn't care about those things.

SPEAKER_01: 2:18:23

I do, you know. So listen, uh, not that I have an an office of any sort, but I would love to I would love to have that that type of helmet in uh like to to display somewhere, or like a mini version of it. They should they should really do mini helmets of like some of the some of these schools that have really for the like the for FCS and all them too.

SPEAKER_06: 2:18:51

Uh probably not nationally.

SPEAKER_01: 2:18:54

Well shoot, let me know if they have one of those Youngstown State ones. I might I might have to pull a Donnie and get and you know and get it.

SPEAKER_06: 2:19:02

Green Bay score.

SPEAKER_05: 2:19:06

Oh my god. You know how much that mini helmet is on eBay?$70?$75. I believe it. I believe it.

SPEAKER_06: 2:19:17

Oh my god. Okay, I can, I can, I can, we can we can call this. I can go ahead and do this.

SPEAKER_05: 2:19:25

Breaking news. Oh god, breaking news. We got breaking news, guys.

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I I've seen enough.

SPEAKER_04: 2:19:34

Congratulations on Red Iron Greats for beating Dead Hat in fantasy after the I told you, I told you, I told you.

SPEAKER_01: 2:19:46

I well, uh considering I just horrific. Of like, I didn't even play Jameson Williams this week.

SPEAKER_05: 2:19:52

I'm like, I played Jarrett Wilson. I told you. There it is. 110 to 102. You can definitely call that because he scored a touchdown.

SPEAKER_06: 2:20:03

I'm calling that. Unless if Josh Jacob fumbles four times between now and which he could. No, he's not going to. He's gonna probably touch it again after this.

SPEAKER_05: 2:20:12

No, I I've been trying to tell him all fucking week. That's why I said shut up. I love you, shut up.

SPEAKER_01: 2:20:20

I've been doing it just to get a rise out of you, and it's been great.

SPEAKER_08: 2:20:24

So I tell you what, I've Ed, you got me scrolling down through Division II standings just looking at conference or like team names.

SPEAKER_04: 2:20:34

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_08: 2:20:35

There's some yeah. There's there's a bull weevils.

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Yeah, there is.

SPEAKER_08: 2:20:43

There's uh there's a peacocks. There's uh that is Upper Iowa Peacocks.

SPEAKER_06: 2:20:54

Oh, I didn't know it was a second peacock thing.

SPEAKER_08: 2:20:56

There's a couple of others down here. There's the Tiffin Dragons. Um yeah, there is uh oh shoot, where was it? Hang on, I gotta get back down here. There's a couple of cool ones down here. There's the javelins. Javelinas, excuse me. Javelinas.

SPEAKER_05: 2:21:14

No, javelinas.

SPEAKER_08: 2:21:16

There is uh like the Orient? Okay, like the Ichabods, Texas AM, Kingsville Avalinas. Uh yeah, you've got the uh the Washburn Ichabods, Central Missouri Mules.

SPEAKER_01: 2:21:36

Uh what about the Vodasta State University Blazers, man? That's championship city to you. Yeah, it is. Dusty Bonner, my man. Dusty Bonner.

SPEAKER_08: 2:21:46

Oh, this is this is this is a Patrick. This is a Patrick one right up in Pace Setters.

SPEAKER_01: 2:21:56

Yeah. Pace University?

SPEAKER_06: 2:22:00

You have to have college Jimmy's. You haven't gone to my favorite one yet.

SPEAKER_08: 2:22:06

The uh University of Mary Marauders.

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Keep going.

SPEAKER_08: 2:22:13

All right, I'm still going down here. Let's see. There's a couple others down here. There's so many animals that are just blah blah blah blah blah. There's the Scots, there's the Vulcans. Um Vulcans isn't a bad one. The ore diggers. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_01: 2:22:32

Yeah, can you repeat that one?

SPEAKER_08: 2:22:35

Or diggers.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_08: 2:22:38

Colorado School of Mines.

SPEAKER_04: 2:22:44

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08: 2:22:47

Tell me what you come again.

SPEAKER_01: 2:22:50

Can you say it one more time? I really didn't catch that.

SPEAKER_08: 2:22:52

I thought maybe my internet was I thought my internet was cutting out. Okay, you're you're messing with me. I get it.

SPEAKER_01: 2:22:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, well, uh no. I mean, I really didn't understand.

SPEAKER_08: 2:23:01

I'm at the bottom of the list. What did I what did I miss?

SPEAKER_01: 2:23:04

What was that? What was that one?

SPEAKER_06: 2:23:07

Uh my two favorite from um Division II, Arkansas Tech Wonder Boys.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_06: 2:23:14

Wow. And the Where are they at?

SPEAKER_08: 2:23:17

What I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_06: 2:23:20

They should be there. And then the Colorado I don't know what conference they are. And then the Colorado State Pleebo uh Thunder Wolves.

SPEAKER_05: 2:23:29

Yeah, I I've seen that the Thunder Wolves, yeah, yeah. Johnny, what was Montana Tech?

SPEAKER_00: 2:23:33

I think I did see Thunder Wolves.

SPEAKER_08: 2:23:37

Montana Tech?

SPEAKER_00: 2:23:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 2:23:41

I don't know. Did I say Montana Tech?

SPEAKER_01: 2:23:45

I thought you did. I don't know. I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_05: 2:23:49

I don't know. You bad that ESPN, like when you you they got the teens and everything, but they don't have you cannot click on any of those names. No.

SPEAKER_08: 2:23:58

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 2:23:59

Yeah. I mean, he didn't even mention Columbus State University. My uh my alma mater.

SPEAKER_05: 2:24:05

Isn't that a uh uh uh two-year school?

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:08

No, it's a four-year school, but the C stands for quality. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_05: 2:24:12

Do you know that's a Columbus State in uh Columbus, Ohio, which is an actual well is that a community is that a two-year.

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:20

No, I said this is a four-year one, but RC stands for quality, okay?

SPEAKER_05: 2:24:23

It is, is actual uh is a two-year. Well, RC stands for quality, like I said.

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:29

So Carnegie Mellon, the Terriers.

SPEAKER_06: 2:24:31

Yeah, only uh my school only has Division II basketball, no football.

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:35

Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think Columbus State has football either.

SPEAKER_06: 2:24:38

They've been trying, but they also had division one hockey for a while, but that one away is that way. Who did UAH?

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:46

Ooh.

SPEAKER_05: 2:24:48

That's not we don't know University of Alabama Huntsville?

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:53

Yeah. No, no, is that where Roman did Roman Reigns go to University of Alabama Huntsville? Is that where he goes? Ooh.

SPEAKER_06: 2:24:59

No, no, no, no. He went to Georgia Tech. You know, yes, you did. Yeah, you didn't Lake Erie Storm.

SPEAKER_05: 2:25:05

That's I that's a young uh I know that one.

SPEAKER_08: 2:25:10

Did you you said Wonder Boys, right? Yes, is that what you said?

SPEAKER_06: 2:25:14

Arkansas Tech Wonder Boys, yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 2:25:16

Yeah, yeah. Arkansas Tech Wonder Boys. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, great American Conference.

SPEAKER_01: 2:25:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_08: 2:25:23

Brother, what about central Missouri? I don't remember seeing Montana Tech or okay.

SPEAKER_01: 2:25:28

Well, I could have been wrong. I'm sorry. I probably just I probably just had it, you know, in my mind.

SPEAKER_06: 2:25:38

So oh, and I I do have some bad news for picks for this week.

SPEAKER_01: 2:25:42

Oh, tell us, Wade Barrett.

SPEAKER_06: 2:25:44

Uh we are thank you. I I I like that compliment. We are gonna have to pick a game with the cowards in it. Because the cowards are going to Bozeman, Montana. I told you that game was I I told you that game. I know. And um, I guess under protest we will have to pick this one.

SPEAKER_05: 2:26:09

I got you. But by the way, I just want to mention the uh the central Missouri, uh, they're known as the mules.

SPEAKER_00: 2:26:16

He said that one.

SPEAKER_05: 2:26:17

Yeah, the mules. Great name.

SPEAKER_08: 2:26:20

Slippery rot the rock. That's that's that's pretty bad to me. Slippery rot the rock.

SPEAKER_01: 2:26:26

No, I I know I like that.

SPEAKER_05: 2:26:31

Minnesota State Moorhead Dragons. God, what a good names in Division 2.

SPEAKER_01: 2:26:37

A lot of dragons. Like uh I like I um I like the lumberjacks of Humboldt State.

SPEAKER_05: 2:26:47

Because Tiffin is another dragon, Tiffin University.

SPEAKER_01: 2:26:50

And um and I have Virgil to thank for this because he did this for me out of his kindness, uh kindness of his heart of a few weeks ago. But um can we please talk about the Delta State statesman?

SPEAKER_06: 2:27:03

See, I like Delta State because they only have the not only do they have the statesman, they have also the best unofficial nickname and the fighting okra.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27:10

Uh yeah, 100%. I love the fighting okra.

SPEAKER_08: 2:27:14

Yeah, and and I I've been ever since Johnny Boland got that that hat. I want to I want a fighting okra hat.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27:20

Yeah, I was clamoring to get to pick a Delta State game, and Virgil, Virgil kindly allowed that to happen a few weeks ago. And I just want to go on record publicly saying thank you, um, Virgil, for that.

SPEAKER_06: 2:27:32

I mean, I took a loss in the end because I picked against them, but you know, it happens.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27:36

Uh listen, uh I knew I had to pick Delta State, even if it was against, you know, um like uh what's that? What what's the uh is Mountain Union Division III?

SPEAKER_06: 2:27:48

Three. Three yeah, the Purple Knights.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27:51

Are they still perennial champions in D3? I mean not recently, yeah. Because it seemed like for a while it was just kind of like uh um a formality that Mountain Union would just win the title every year.

SPEAKER_06: 2:28:03

It's kind of been jumping around a little bit.

SPEAKER_01: 2:28:06

Um the integrity of the competition. Let's see. Um, I like the Red Foxes at Marist, and of course, Coastal Carolina, the Chanticleers. I didn't realize Coastal Carolina, are they D2 in football?

SPEAKER_06: 2:28:23

No, they're FPS.

SPEAKER_05: 2:28:25

Yeah, they're D1.

SPEAKER_01: 2:28:26

Yeah, they're in the Sunbelt conference, right? Yeah. They're a D1. Yeah, because I was gonna say Georgia State lost to them this weekend. So uh, you know, I you know, I'm again I'm used to a lot of losses, and I was like, surely they're not D2.

SPEAKER_08: 2:28:44

Look at now I'm all intrigued about the uh the there's not a lot of good Division III names though.

SPEAKER_05: 2:28:57

I am looking at their top 25. Mountain Union is number two.

SPEAKER_06: 2:29:03

Who's number one? Is it Portland?

SPEAKER_05: 2:29:05

North Central.

SPEAKER_06: 2:29:06

North Central, okay.

SPEAKER_05: 2:29:07

That's North Central. Yeah, so number one is North Central, number two, Mount Union, number three, Johns Hopkins. Oh. Um number four, University of Wisconsin River Falls. Then you got Bethel, Wart Wartburg, Christopher Newport, St. John's, John Carroll University. That's a really good school. Uh University of Wisconsin, Plattville, Salisbury, another University of Wisconsin, Whitewater, Hart and Simmons, University of Wisconsin-Lacrosse. Hey, respect UW lacrosse.

SPEAKER_01: 2:29:47

That's where my that's where my parents went. The Powell.

SPEAKER_06: 2:29:50

Patrick picked them to beat Whitewater when we picked that game.

SPEAKER_01: 2:29:54

I sure did. Yeah, but my mom went there.

SPEAKER_05: 2:29:59

I'm gonna finish up Hope, Barry, Wheaton. Um, then you got Central, Cortland, Randolph Macon, Trinity, Texas, Suske, Susquehanna, Susquehanna, Susquehanna, Susquehanna, Wabash, and then Franklin and Marshall are your top 25.

SPEAKER_06: 2:30:18

So if we're talking about Division Three, um one of my favorite uh teams, team names, it's the Knox College Prairie Flyer.

SPEAKER_05: 2:30:28

Prairie Flyer?

SPEAKER_06: 2:30:30

Fire.

SPEAKER_05: 2:30:30

Fire.

SPEAKER_01: 2:30:32

Oh by the way, in D2, how do we not talk about the Edinburgh Fighting Scots?

SPEAKER_06: 2:30:40

Well, Donnie mentioned Scots, and then like we kind of went away from that.

SPEAKER_01: 2:30:43

I guess it's Edinburgh Fighting Scots. There's several Scots and uh listen, if that how were they inspired by the Florida Fighting Donnies?

SPEAKER_06: 2:30:55

Well, the Florida Fighting Donnies were definitely not inspired.

SPEAKER_01: 2:30:58

Yeah, we're gonna talk about that tomorrow.

SPEAKER_06: 2:31:00

We will.

SPEAKER_01: 2:31:01

Donnie, I'm gonna need for you to fit tell me what's going on in Jacksonville, man.

SPEAKER_06: 2:31:05

And Carolina.

SPEAKER_08: 2:31:06

I will I will have an update.

SPEAKER_01: 2:31:09

Okay, well, uh, because uh I need to know what your boy what what your boy Trevor Lawrence. Oof.

SPEAKER_08: 2:31:19

Everybody's entitled to a bad day now and then. A bad day?

SPEAKER_05: 2:31:22

How about a bad year?

SPEAKER_01: 2:31:25

A bad couple years. I was just about to say, and where does every now and then come in? Right.

SPEAKER_06: 2:31:31

I mean, to be fair, his defining moment this year is when he fell down.

SPEAKER_01: 2:31:37

True story. Yeah, not up, but fell down. And you know what his other defining moment is like like flicking off his coach, Leo, Liam Cohen.

SPEAKER_06: 2:31:46

Oh, and I guess I could be his nose on national television.

SPEAKER_01: 2:31:49

Oh, well, that too.

SPEAKER_06: 2:31:53

I love it.

SPEAKER_01: 2:31:56

I'm never coming back to this show ever again.

SPEAKER_06: 2:31:59

Well that's it for FCS. Um as you can tell I have a very good handle of today's show. We have not gone on any tangents whatsoever.

SPEAKER_01: 2:32:05

None.

SPEAKER_00: 2:32:06

But are there you stay right on the screen?

SPEAKER_01: 2:32:09

This is a very professional, first rate show.

SPEAKER_06: 2:32:13

But are there any uh we got any F1 topics to talk about? Any hockey you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_05: 2:32:19

Uh no, that's not me. The uh verse happened, you know, I'll say this. He started in the uh all the way in the hell in the back and came in and you know, came into third place. Uh Norris, I got number one. So Piastri struggling there. Um, but at the very least, you know, he's got some points, but yeah, it's uh Piastri is uh it's going backwards instead of forwards, which is not a good thing in F1. And that was your Formula One report.

SPEAKER_01: 2:32:47

Well, and hockey-wise, um, I just want to say shout out to the Anaheim Ducks for leading the Pacific Division. Um they've gotten off to they've gotten off to a flyer. Um you know, now um they've honestly they've played really well, and uh Joel Quinnville um has really done a great job with that with this young team. Uh Dostal looks great in goal. Uh Leo Carlson is really coming together and uh you know playing like the number two pick that he that that he was and Seneca and um uh Gautier. Um they they beat they beat they beat Vegas last night, so that should tell you something. Sorry, Winnipeg the other, and then they beat the Vegas the other night. So they're beating teams that they used to get trounced by as late as last season. So it's been a really really fun start as a Ducks fan and um you know excited to see if they can keep it going.

SPEAKER_08: 2:33:45

I feel like we talked this morning about the Carolina Hurricanes uh uh four-game win streak this past week as well. Um they've moved up to uh second place in the Metropolitan behind New Jersey. Um so they're doing pretty good. My Florida Panthers, not so hot this year, 77 right now. So good. Dragon the bottom of the Atlantic. Keep losing.

SPEAKER_01: 2:34:13

Is Marshand in the right headspace because of what's happened to him personally? Or do you think that because I feel like he's had one emotional after the other because he he you know he had obviously the friend that that friend that he lost, and then um and then he came back and then he went to Boston and they did that video tribute, and he was just he was a mess during that.

SPEAKER_05: 2:34:32

Marshond may be a good person, but he's a shitty asshole on the on the ice, and I can't fucking stand up.

SPEAKER_08: 2:34:40

It it hasn't just been him. It's not all on him. So no, I was just wrong. They're up right now, they're up one-nothing on the golden knights right now, but we'll see.

SPEAKER_01: 2:34:51

Vegas Golden Knights. Yeah. Who who have been good themselves, the Vegas Golden Knights.

SPEAKER_08: 2:34:58

Um, yeah, they're they're right behind uh right behind the um ducks in uh your division.

SPEAKER_01: 2:35:07

Yeah, the and the crazy thing is the ducks have played like three games less than some of those teams, and they're still they're still at the top. So good. I'm not saying well, I mean that's like your second team, isn't it, Ed? It is. Yeah, I mean uh listen, I'm not used to this recently. Like it's been it's been horrible to watch.

SPEAKER_05: 2:35:27

I I again I go back to early Disney movies where the ducks with me, so that's when I really started following hockey with with the I know Virgil started following them because of the flying V, but um because that's such a legit actual good, you know, not legal, I mean very legal, you know, play.

SPEAKER_01: 2:35:49

Well, yeah, I mean Virgil, I know you way to go, Virgil. Um, anyways, um, yeah, so uh so yeah. Um that that's my NH that's my NHL update. And um uh it's been a fun start to the season. And by the way, as always, uh I don't care about Gary Bettman. He's an awful commissioner.

SPEAKER_06: 2:36:11

And there's that no complaints here about that. All right. Well, this is this concludes tonight's episode of one more thing.

SPEAKER_01: 2:36:20

Can we talk about NWSL really quickly? Atlanta's getting an NWSL team.

SPEAKER_06: 2:36:26

Oh, when did that break? I didn't know about that.

SPEAKER_01: 2:36:29

Um a new um Rank uh it's a new record. I think it was what 150 million N. Is that right?

SPEAKER_05: 2:36:37

Oh, way too much. I thought it was 105, 150. I can't remember the numbers.

SPEAKER_01: 2:36:41

It was a record, it was a record to to bring a team to the NWSL. And uh the 14th team, the NWSL is gonna be in Atlanta. I think starting play in 2028, if I'm not mistaken. So I look forward to supporting them and I look forward to going to some of those games because I love 165. Was it 165? Okay. Well, I love women's football. Um, I I think that uh it's fun, it's gonna be fun to see some of the some of the best players in the world uh come and play in Atlanta. Um maybe not Jesus.

SPEAKER_05: 2:37:16

You what 17th NWSL franchise.

SPEAKER_01: 2:37:20

17th, okay. Yeah, well, either way, like um there's some really good players still in the NWSL, even though the women's super league is taking you know, like is slowly but surely taking away players for NWSL. But to just have a team field in Atlanta now is going to be exciting. So I'm looking forward to that for not only for me, but also for for young girls and new women that you know that that that like watching them and other and other guys that like to watch women's football as well. So Virgil's like I didn't realize there was one in North.

SPEAKER_06: 2:37:55

I'm just so back listening.

SPEAKER_01: 2:37:58

Virgil's like, why'd you bring that up? I could care less. No, that's what the point of the show is. Yeah, but I was excited about it because it's um as many teams as there were in NWSL, I was kind of shocked. I've been always shocked that there hasn't been a team in Atlanta. Um, considering in the previous iterations of women's leagues in the you know in the country, the um Atlanta always had a team.

SPEAKER_06: 2:38:21

So there's a little surprising thing about that.

SPEAKER_01: 2:38:23

Well, I mean, and there's been some some really good US national team players that have actually played in Atlanta, despite those leagues not lasting a long time. Like Brianna Scurry played for the Atlanta Beat. Um yeah, there were a few really good ones. So um, but Brianna Scurry was one uh former US women's national team keeper that uh it was really cool. I never made it to a game because they lasted like two seasons, but um I would definitely make sure I make it in the first season for this new one.

SPEAKER_06: 2:38:53

Very nice.

SPEAKER_01: 2:38:54

Yep, because you got you gotta support the teams when they're local, right? I gotta be like you guys and making sure I get out and support those teams.

SPEAKER_06: 2:39:02

Absolutely, absolutely. Everybody supports your local teams for sure.

SPEAKER_00: 2:39:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_06: 2:39:08

All right. Well, that concludes tonight's episode of Breaking of Sports. Join us tomorrow to go on to DAC Sports Show talking about NFL and college and a um a doubleheader of Gotlebatch. So you're ready for that. Will he win both games? Or we'll find out. But until then, stay tuned, and we'll see you guys tomorrow.